ok well this is my first year in drumline im top bass. I can get my music down and memorize it pretty well and drill isnt that hard for me. But being top bass i have to watch the other 4 basses. Well they seem to dont care at all about it, think its just a blow off class i guess. And i try and get them to play the right part go to their right spots but they dont listen. Ive talked ot my director and shes talked to them but they just dont care...

if u have any ideas of what i can do to get these guys to actaully work...TELL ME

Show them a good DCI show...

electric shock aversion?
i have a similar problem, sometimes it seems like im dealing with a bunch of retards...i think that if you really want them to work, let them know whats at stake, and if they keep screwing up, make them run laps...thats what works for me.

Or perhaps they just don't have the same desire you do? Maybe it's just that simple. Showing them videos might make them say "Yeah... more stuff we can't do" and will just discourage them.

Remember, when dealing with HS kids - it's not about the utopian answer, it's about the realistic one.

push-ups, push-ups, push-ups!!!
If your not the one to administer punishment, tell your drum captain. That will get them motivated. If not that....if you have a track around your field, make them run, if not, run laps around the field with their drums on. They'll get it one way or another. But with them not caring it sucks. Our cymbals are the same way. The only reason there in it is for gym exemption so they don't even try. But it definitely sucks when your trying to be the best, I know how you feel.

All push-ups, running etc does is waste time. You're there to learn how to drum, not build muscles.

Only real punishment thatw orks is taking away certain priviliges that the drumline usually gets.

ya the sad part is they dont even listen to my drum captain they just dont give a ####...but im tryin to get them to appreciate it alittle more

atleast enough to were they will come to practice and learn there drills

thx for the help
Parker

ya i understand...but the rest of the DL understdands that drumline is like a family and knows wehn they are told to fix somethin or so somethin they need to do it

You could try putting them in charge. The best way to teach leadership is to bestow in on someone.

Some people will just goof off worse in leadership positions, as they say, power corrupts. If they're already corrupt it'll only get worse.

ya thats exactly what would happen

dicipline has to be secured the very first day you meet the line you're in. My school is only 5 years old and before this year. we didn't have anyone take iniciative more than 2 days before band camp. The section leaders didn't show that they were leaders ever either. if you want to get people to listen get your section leader get him or her to start making people do push-ups if they don't listen it worked for me. Other than that dicipline starts before band camp, the previous school year.

ya me and my captain have told them to run or do push ups but they wont get off their butts to do it they sit there like dumbasses

I don't know these people, so I'm talking from what I read ... It's hard. It's easy when people know that tingly feeling in your stomach after an amazing show ... or heck, even an exercise that sounded really good. You can't explain it to them, because they'll think you're a complete nerd, because they have no respect for anyone. I'd suggest putting time into them, telling them that they ARE worth something, your time, your effort, their effort ... Tell them that the stuff that they're learning is all them. There isn't another person in the entire world that could march your show with their dots, their notes, their energy. Make them feel special, like "yeah, there IS a reason I'm here." You need them. Sometimes that's all that people need ... to be needed.

Honestly, if they aren't listening to your captain, then there is a serious problem. But I agree with Cadet. If they truly don't enjoy it like you do, then you can't force them to. It's that simple. It's not your place to say "you must enjoy this and want to do this as much as I do." And honestly, that is the biggest flaw and weakness to the majority of high school lines. Also, physical punishment isn't the best option. That only discourages them, and as I said before, it's not your place to punish them for something they don't want to do. Once again, that's the sad part behind high school drumlines. If you are serious about getting something done, sit them down and talk to them. Find out why they don't care or aren't having fun, etc. Communication is the best way to take care of business on a high school level. Also, try making things a little more fun. The discipline should still be there; but, if they are not having fun, then what is the point for them to be there? It is high school after all. Good luck.