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#92172 - 08/22/05 08:04 PM Keeping your drum still
Anonymous
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I have just started my drill on our school's show, and I'm the freshman snare, so I really need some tips on how to march correctly. In it, the snare line has to take some HUGE steps (4 steps to 5 yards), and I have not figured out any way to keep my drum from bouncing up and down. If anyone has any tips please post them on this. Any help will be greatly appreciated by me and the snare line.

Thanks, Yiannisnare01

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#92173 - 08/23/05 12:55 AM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: ]
Spurz Offline


Registered: 05/10/05
Loc: Greenville, PA
Inspect your harness and make sure everything is nice and tight. If anything is loose it may cause problems and make the drum bounce up and down.

Also, please make sure you are roll stepping. It makes it SO much easier to march and it keeps your drum very still as long as you aren't flat footed or have oil tankers for feet you should be fine.
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#92174 - 08/23/05 01:29 AM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: Spurz]
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Registered: 10/15/04
Loc: Persian Gulf...as of June
also for 4-to-the-5 bend your knees, that aids in the reduction of bouncing
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#92175 - 08/23/05 10:37 AM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: drumline_YOUKNOW]
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Registered: 06/13/03
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also for 4-to-the-5 bend your knees, that aids in the reduction of bouncing




I'm going to disagree with that.

Good technique aids in the reduction of bouncing. While it works for the horn myrons, bending looks awful when a battery does it. If you are marching forward, you'll most likely have a snare or two bang their knees into the drum (probably losing a scoop in the process), the tenors won't be able to get past theirs, only the basses may have a shot.

If you're marching backwards and bending your knees, this has to look really awkward and your center of gravity is probably all over the place unless you roll step backwards, yuck. Toes all the way.

Lastly, if you're bending during a crab step, you more than likely will appear to be taking a poo on the field.

Now this is strictly a matter of preference, but I prefer the straight leg approach. For all you wise guys reading this, no, I'm not saying to lock your legs, no one is a robot. The style my programs are taught is very similar to what the Cadets use, especially the crab technique, minus the right foot lead

After marching in two corps and a wgi line with three different styles, these are the conclusions I've come to. However if anyone reading this has a justified opposite pov, I welcome it.
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#92176 - 08/23/05 11:56 AM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: snarepaint]
Anonymous
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March with out your drum at first. Is your upper body bouncing? Everything that we do marching wise is controlled by our legs, feet, and toes. It should look as if you and your drum are floating out there.

To control your upper body, you have to control the muscles in your legs.

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#92177 - 08/23/05 01:37 PM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: ]
Mandrake Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Loc: Band room attic
sadly its more effort for people who play tenors, for girls like myself its even harder cause we have hips and they naturally swing. you'll get the hang of it eventually. remember to get up on your toes as well ^_^
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#92178 - 08/23/05 02:15 PM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: snarepaint]
kevin_fu Administrator Offline


Registered: 06/16/00
Loc: Southern MD
Quote:

Quote:

also for 4-to-the-5 bend your knees, that aids in the reduction of bouncing




I'm going to disagree with that.

Good technique aids in the reduction of bouncing. While it works for the horn myrons, bending looks awful when a battery does it. If you are marching forward, you'll most likely have a snare or two bang their knees into the drum (probably losing a scoop in the process), the tenors won't be able to get past theirs, only the basses may have a shot.

If you're marching backwards and bending your knees, this has to look really awkward and your center of gravity is probably all over the place unless you roll step backwards, yuck. Toes all the way.

Lastly, if you're bending during a crab step, you more than likely will appear to be taking a poo on the field.

Now this is strictly a matter of preference, but I prefer the straight leg approach. For all you wise guys reading this, no, I'm not saying to lock your legs, no one is a robot. The style my programs are taught is very similar to what the Cadets use, especially the crab technique, minus the right foot lead

After marching in two corps and a wgi line with three different styles, these are the conclusions I've come to. However if anyone reading this has a justified opposite pov, I welcome it.




I agree with you (straight leg approach) but bending the legs does have a purpose.

Think of your body as a set of springs and stabalizers. Your first stabalizer would be your foot and its platform(s), then going on up, your ankle is a spring. Calf: stabalizer, knees: spring, thighs/glutes: stabalizer, hips: spring, waist, lower, middle and upper abdominals: stabalizer, neck:spring.

If you take the straight leg approach , basses especially will feel very top heavy. By adjusting the knees (i'm not talking "the limbo" here), you lower your center of gravity and you'll be able to use more of a "push off" for jazz-run like drill sets. Its all about moving fluidly. Keep the upper body still and let the legs do the work. Marching is the only time you'll hear the word "tense up" and it will be good. You legs and abs must provide a lot of muscle contribution, or you will look like a camel bouncing up and down.

Look at Star 93's bass line (and the rest of the line too...). They had some ridiculous 5 to 5 drill. They did it smoothly while bending the knees and fluidly "pushing off" the platform (while spinning from forward to backward). Getting that fluid push off to work with your knees and ankles to counter the bounce is what seals the deal.
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#92179 - 08/23/05 03:41 PM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: kevin_fu]
Anonymous
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I used to have the problem with my drum bouncing, but I find if I stand up very straight and breathe in, filling my harness with my upper body, my drum will stay straight.

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#92180 - 08/23/05 04:21 PM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: kevin_fu]
drumline_YOUKNOW Offline


Registered: 10/15/04
Loc: Persian Gulf...as of June
Quote:

I agree with you (straight leg approach) but bending the legs does have a purpose.

Think of your body as a set of springs and stabalizers. Your first stabalizer would be your foot and its platform(s), then going on up, your ankle is a spring. Calf: stabalizer, knees: spring, thighs/glutes: stabalizer, hips: spring, waist, lower, middle and upper abdominals: stabalizer, neck:spring.

If you take the straight leg approach , basses especially will feel very top heavy. By adjusting the knees (i'm not talking "the limbo" here), you lower your center of gravity and you'll be able to use more of a "push off" for jazz-run like drill sets. Its all about moving fluidly. Keep the upper body still and let the legs do the work. Marching is the only time you'll hear the word "tense up" and it will be good. You legs and abs must provide a lot of muscle contribution, or you will look like a camel bouncing up and down.

Look at Star 93's bass line (and the rest of the line too...). They had some ridiculous 5 to 5 drill. They did it smoothly while bending the knees and fluidly "pushing off" the platform (while spinning from forward to backward). Getting that fluid push off to work with your knees and ankles to counter the bounce is what seals the deal.




thats what i meant by the post, i just don't have a way with words like others do.
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-Vince



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#92181 - 08/23/05 09:24 PM Re: Keeping your drum still [Re: drumline_YOUKNOW]
multipercussion Offline


Registered: 11/15/04
Loc: Raleigh, NC
I had that same problem, but it helps you if lift and separate, meaning you project forward while moving your lower body without it affecting your upper body.(Including your hand speed.)

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