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#90332 - 08/23/05 01:15 PM
Re: Old School vs. New School
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It would be cool to see some cool notes played again. Hopefully it happens sooner than later.
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#90333 - 08/24/05 12:50 AM
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Did you see that happening in the video Rob? Did you see it?
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#90334 - 08/24/05 12:58 PM
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Yeah I saw it. Looks like they had a smoking line this year. What did they place in drums?
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#90336 - 08/24/05 08:16 PM
Re: Old School vs. New School
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One thing I was thinking about the difference between old and new school drumming is time. The new school is all about playing with the metronome and the players are much better at playing in time then some of the old school guys. Sure there were individuals or even full lines back in the day that could play in time but not nearly as consistent as what's currently happening. As it turns out, the west coast style of drumming was notorious for playing out of time but what was cool is it was on purpose AND it was clean. What always amazed me too was a line would hang a phrase or add gaps before singles, yet it would all line up with the corps. I guess when you practice being out of time enough everyone goes with the flow.
I started my drum corps career almost exactly when use of a met became common practice. As much as the chirp of a Dr. Beat makes me cringe to this day, it definitely separated the men from the boys. While my sense of time is not perfect it did hone it enough to better hear not only when the line was out of time, but also when individually I was pushing or pulling. Let me tell you, this also helps tremendously in teaching so you can tell your students more accurately what they need to do to play clean with the line.
I remember Blue Devils used to hang phrases a lot and they did it clean. That always impressed me when a line could pull it off. I remember falling asleep on a gym floor with that incessant beep from Dr. Beat stuck in my head.
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#90337 - 08/25/05 04:15 AM
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I remember Blue Devils used to hang phrases a lot and they did it clean. That always impressed me when a line could pull it off. I remember falling asleep on a gym floor with that incessant beep from Dr. Beat stuck in my head.
Float was the "master" of that action. Even in VK he did that alot a lot with our lines. Rob can clarify more on this Im sure. Although I don't remember him being big on the met or Dr. Beat as much. Same with Paul Rennick when he taught us with Float in 94. Stick clicks from Float or Rennick seemed to rule the day back then from what I recall. Heck, you can see in the PR videos from this year Rennick clicking sticks rather than a Dr. Beat through a Long Ranger coming from behind the line. That's old school! 
Another thing that I just thought about that is definately "old school" is playing everything(including the drum book) off the left hand. That is, playing what you play starting off the right hand, but starting it off the left hand. Now I don't know if that was just a Tom Float thing, or if alot a lot of lines back in the day did that as well. However, I can't really say that I know if lines do that these days or not. Maybe someone can confirm or deny that.
Edited by DLWebmaestro (08/26/05 01:54 PM)
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#90338 - 08/25/05 12:24 PM
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Hulka, it funny how you talk about hanging phrases. I can recall when BD use to play a 16th note single combination excercise there was a gap big enough to drive a bus through between the 16th note and the single. I remember one of our techs that had marched BD saying it was so everybody listening would be able to tell the difference between the two. And you had to bring up that damn Dr. Beat. We didn't use it for drumline practice until '94 when Rennick got there. I hated it at first until we started beating everybody in execution including the big boys. I'm mixed on Dr. Beat. I think that if you start playing without it, it helps everybody to listen in and play together as a cohesive unit. When you bring in Dr. Beat, I think guys tend to listen to the chirp rather than listen in. If you can clean your parts to the chirp that great. But in real world playing, its all about using your ears, adjusting and knowing the the guy next to you so well that you are on the same page in your adjustments.
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