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#86833 - 06/30/05 09:34 PM Doubles on bass
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Does anyone have any suggestions as to which warmups and/or exercises can help develop doubles/double stroke roll on bass? If so, could you possibly provide some subdivisons?
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#86834 - 06/30/05 09:35 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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double beat.
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#86835 - 06/30/05 09:37 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: Toe]
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You could also do some of the excersise= 2 beats of 16ths then 2 beats of roll, repeat, then 4 beats of 16ths then 4 beats of roll. At my school, we call it "chicken in a bowl".


Edited by premier (06/30/05 09:41 PM)

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#86836 - 06/30/05 10:41 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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For a basic pattern just work with this

Do the pattern with your right hand once, then with your left and repeat. this is a very basic double exercise but it works.
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#86837 - 06/30/05 11:48 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: BismarkUMD]
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That's exactly what I do.

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#86838 - 06/30/05 11:59 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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i do that too! it works!! lol
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#86839 - 07/01/05 08:13 AM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: premier]
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Registered: 07/01/04
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For my line I use good ole' Double Beat, and I also have an excercise we played at Illinois called Prelude to a roll. Prelude takes the doubles from Double Beat and expands on that to play a alternating doubles very openly. PM me and I'll email it to you.
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#86840 - 07/08/05 09:37 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: Bassn81]
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Usually, things that work for snares also work for basses. Any double beat pattern works. We have a specific double beat pattern that pretty much works like the one Bismark used, but it has a couple of tweaks to it. Just find what works for your line.
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#86841 - 07/28/05 01:36 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: drumnsax2]
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To get stong double out of a bass, I've used inverted rolls. It's an excercise that emphazizes the second beat of a double stroke rolls. It really helps to pull the sound out of the bass so you can have meaty rolls.

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#86842 - 07/28/05 03:18 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: BismarkUMD]
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Quote:

For a basic pattern just work with this

Do the pattern with your right hand once, then with your left and repeat. this is a very basic double exercise but it works.



we do the same as above plus this


Edited by bizob (07/28/05 03:24 PM)

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#86843 - 07/28/05 08:50 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: premier]
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Registered: 07/26/04
Loc: Hattiesburg, MS (USM)
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You could also do some of the excersise= 2 beats of 16ths then 2 beats of roll, repeat, then 4 beats of 16ths then 4 beats of roll. At my school, we call it "chicken in a bowl".




Funny, we used to use that exercise at my school, except we called it "Chicken in a Roll".

I wouldn't use a roll excerise to work on doubles. Double Beat would help alot a lot more stroke wise than a roll ex. would.
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#86844 - 07/28/05 08:58 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: HCHSDrummer05]
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Doubles get progressively harder the lower the Bass is, due to the fact that the higher pitched drums are stretched more, giving them bounce. Try a single on the lowest bass you have and a single on 1st. You'll see the difference.
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#86845 - 08/17/05 11:36 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: HCHSDrummer05]
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Registered: 10/20/03
I get my line to play double beat too. I also use triplet diddle.

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#86846 - 08/18/05 12:23 AM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: MR1018]
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Registered: 08/05/05
Loc: Charlotte,Nc
THe most important thing is not to lose your technique while you're playing doubles - It took me forever to get them down and im I'm still working on it. Use it or lose it. Practice on pillows and just start slow and speed up, then slow and speed up. If you can't feel it, you aren't doing it long enough - Or use a Vic Practice pad and the back of your mallots mallets. I can easily do doubles on the top 2 basses -my bass is 3rd so it's just a little more difficult - But on 5th - as heavy as the mallots mallets are and as little rebound as you get, it gets hard.


Edited by DLWebmaestro (08/18/05 07:14 AM)

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#86847 - 08/18/05 12:58 AM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: Gnome]
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Don't forget triple beat--it's like swinging 3 bats to warm up: so much easier to play double strokes when you work triple strokes to death.

(For anyone who doesn't know, triple beat is 2 sixteenths and an 8th on a hand, ending with two 8ths, like this:
RRR RRR RRR R R LLL LLL LLL L L, rinse, repeat)
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#86848 - 08/20/05 08:06 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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A-B-C!!! haha Doesn't everyone play these patterns in warm-up?

we call the first pattern shown 'A'
and then the second 'B'
we also have 'C' which is just moving the 8th note to the front of the measure.

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#86849 - 08/25/05 12:02 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: Souldrum]
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Registered: 07/31/04
Loc: Texas!!
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Don't forget triple beat--it's like swinging 3 bats to warm up: so much easier to play double strokes when you work triple strokes to death.

(For anyone who doesn't know, triple beat is 2 sixteenths and an 8th on a hand, ending with two 8ths, like this:
RRR RRR RRR R R LLL LLL LLL L L, rinse, repeat)




Whats even better than that is quintuple beat... its in 6/4, and the hands go like RRRRR RRRRR RRRRR RRRRRRR/LLLLL LLLLL LLLLL LLLLLL/ and repeat... if you can play that well, then you can not only play doubles very well, but also triples and quadruples!
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#86850 - 08/29/05 09:50 AM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: jmv]
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Why not just have the bass line play single stroke rolls instead of double stroke rolls. If one bass drummer isn't where the rest of the bass drummers are in terms of rolling then have them play down instead. My school's bass line never doubles and it tends to sound crisper and cleaner. Then again we have a terrible bass line.

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#86851 - 08/30/05 06:32 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: HCHSDrummer05]
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Registered: 02/18/04
Loc: Charleston, SC
Quote:

Quote:

You could also do some of the excersise= 2 beats of 16ths then 2 beats of roll, repeat, then 4 beats of 16ths then 4 beats of roll. At my school, we call it "chicken in a bowl".




Funny, we used to use that exercise at my school, except we called it "Chicken in a Roll".





Our old exercise was called chicken and a roll
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#86852 - 09/02/05 09:20 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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we do regular double beat...well...it's regular to us

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#86853 - 09/09/05 10:57 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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Use either Double Beat, Roll Generator, or Dudets. These are all very good choices.

Our old exercise was called chicken and a roll

Chicken and a Roll is a good exercise too, if you can find it.


Edited for double post.


Edited by tenors_rule (09/20/05 02:50 AM)

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#86854 - 09/11/05 11:08 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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Loc: creedmoor NC
play straight sixteenth notes for for measures then stroke 4 measure of double stroke rolls.But the key word being STROKE
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#86855 - 11/14/05 05:43 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: BismarkUMD]
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Quote:

For a basic pattern just work with this

Do the pattern with your right hand once, then with your left and repeat. this is a very basic double exercise but it works.




i love that one & coming from a non-perc to first year bass line bass1, it really does help a lot.


Edited by WFRdrumlinegirl (11/14/05 05:44 PM)

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#86856 - 11/15/05 04:19 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: ]
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Registered: 06/30/03
Loc: Wagener, SC
the first thing is not to look at doubles as doubles but to think of them as a two eighth notes with less space between them in the relative pattern. if you think of them as doubles than more then likely you will crush them or play them incorrectly. i also don't like the playing on a pillow thing. i understand the theory behind but i don't think that it will help your technique as much. your muscles will gradually build up over time so first learn the proper way to play and then just play for extended periods of time on a drum. THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTION FOR PLAYING ON A DRUM(im not yelling its just for reference). im sure your instructor or BD will not mind staying after for you to practice. Also this is probably one of the most important things. Practice with a met. Practice with a met. Everybody say it with me. Practice with a met. This so important for developing your internal pulse with a certain pattern that way if you are playing it incorrectly then you can say ohh wait i am rushing or dragging and you can fix it and eventually you will be able to play in time without a met. Remember always practice with a met, a mirror, and a friend.
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#86857 - 11/15/05 06:06 PM Re: Doubles on bass [Re: highroller]
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Loc: Texas
ya thats how I started playing my doubles my freshman year in high school
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