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#85178 - 06/16/05 12:36 AM Back pain!!!!!
Anonymous
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How do you get over the back pain of carrying your drum,or drums.

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#85179 - 06/16/05 12:41 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
wvuBDrfl Offline


Registered: 08/20/04
advil
youll get used to it after a while if you marching a different drum.
Unless you have a bad back or spine problems, then itd be different
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#85180 - 06/16/05 12:48 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: wvuBDrfl]
DrumJunkie Offline


Registered: 06/11/04
Loc: Fontana, CA
Make sure your harness fits you right. I've seen many problems coming from harnesses not being correctly suited for ones body. I'm pretty sure once it fits your body properly, the pain will be gone.

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#85181 - 06/16/05 12:50 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: wvuBDrfl]
Anonymous
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ya this is my second year in the ,marching band and i marched tenors . That really killed marching with them.i just never really paid attention to the pain, but now it is really bothering me.

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#85182 - 06/16/05 12:55 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
studsnare27 Offline


Registered: 06/17/04
Loc: Imperial Mo
I use to go to a chiropractor right after a long rehersal. WOW. It felt so good.
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#85183 - 06/16/05 01:20 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: studsnare27]
chompchomp Offline


Registered: 02/01/04
Loc: Gainesville, Florida
Sorry to say kids it never stops hurting, and this is coming from a guy who has marched a 32 inch bass for two years followed by 6 years on tenors. Drugs (legal) are probably the best aid. Also, don't forget to stretch.
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Florida Drumline (01-06)

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#85184 - 06/16/05 02:16 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: chompchomp]
icejackal8 Offline


Registered: 11/21/04
Loc: CA
I guess this post would apply to a lot of people currently in everyday rehearsals for drum corps. What I have heard from numerous instructors who have been through it all is to ice, stretch (but not stretch more than you are used to as it can also cause injury), and ADVIL.

And here's to chompchomp. I dont think the pain will ever go completely away. You just have to prevent yourself from injury.

Oh, and march good too. That helps.

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#85185 - 06/16/05 02:41 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: icejackal8]
smmblatin Offline


Registered: 07/01/04
Loc: Cape Coral, Florida
AFter a while, if you use good posture. Your back won't hurt anymore. Your body has to get use to it. That's what happened to me last year.

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#85186 - 06/16/05 02:57 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: smmblatin]
MHSdrummer2920 Offline


Registered: 01/11/05
Loc: Texas
Stretching, good posture , and a well fitting harness all helped me. I would also look into shoe inserts. The insert that I got put some extra spring in my step. It seemed to help in keping me moving and not letting my drum weigh me down too much.


Edited by MHSdrummer2920 (06/16/05 03:06 AM)
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#85187 - 06/16/05 08:35 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: MHSdrummer2920]
bacquads5 Offline


Registered: 02/01/05
Loc: USA
i get over my back pain by having good posture and being relaxed throughout my whole body, meaning, i don't tense up my arms, hands, legs, everything basically. and it works for me.
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BAC '08 Quad-Line


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#85188 - 06/16/05 09:22 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
DrummerOnFire59 Offline


Registered: 03/29/05
Loc: Maryland
i have a back brace, it helps, it doesn't get rid of the pain but it helps, also it gets you to stand straight and not bend back
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05-Bass3 (section leader)
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#85189 - 06/16/05 01:22 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: DrummerOnFire59]
Font Offline


Registered: 12/27/04
Loc: Miami, Fl
The shoes definately help. I just got a new pair of Nike basketball shoes (Forgot which type), and they make it so much easier to march.

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#85190 - 06/16/05 09:49 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: bacquads5]
jowe Offline
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Registered: 04/20/05
Loc: PA, USA
IMO, going to the chiropractor or taking (legal) drugs is going around the problem. Two things are possible:
1- The harness fits your in correctly. If you have Pearl equipment like my school, it's probably sucky and might be broke. Find a model online and make sure yours looks exactly like a new one does. My harness for indoor was a 'Frankenstien' harness, made of two extremely broke ones, and it broke at finals for a WGI regional... not fun when your playing bass 5.

2- You aren't strong enough. Now, I don't mean to be mean at all, but some people are more in shape than others. As chompchomp stated, stretch. It's the best thing you can do to make it easier.
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Millersville Marauder Marching Band (Bass 07-08)
Hatboro-Horsham HS (Bass 03-05; Snare 05-07)

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#85191 - 06/16/05 11:20 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: jowe]
HCHSDrummer05 Offline


Registered: 07/26/04
Loc: Hattiesburg, MS (USM)
The easiest way to keep back pain away, is simply to stand straight while playing. I know this may be hard on Bass 5, but once you make it a habit to stand straight, 80% of the pain will go away.
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Harrison Central High School
'04/05: Plates/4th Bass | '05/06: Snare | '06/07: Snare
(MCM and Synergy Auditionee, '07/08)
Teaching: Instructor, Harrison Central 9th | Marching Tech, HCHS

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#85192 - 06/16/05 11:31 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: bacquads5]
thegreatbrandini Offline


Registered: 05/14/05
Loc: Piedmont, Oklahoma
this coming year is my first year you march...im started to get scared........caus i have fairly bad posture and i never exersize...(starts to get scared about first band camp)
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Piedmont Highschool Marching Band
05-06 Tenors
06-07 Tenors
07-08 Snare

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#85193 - 06/17/05 07:22 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: thegreatbrandini]
Font Offline


Registered: 12/27/04
Loc: Miami, Fl
Quote:

this coming year is my first year you march...im started to get scared........caus i have fairly bad posture and i never exersize...(starts to get scared about first band camp)




Don't worry about it, dude. This is my first year Marching, and I'm playing Tenors as well. Just don't get scared. I used to never exercise, and I used to hunch over when I walked. Marching Band'll fix you right up real quick. The last thing you should do is get scared because of some drum/s. YOU march the drums, the Drums don't march you. You'll get used to the Tenors, even without a back brace (I did.). I suggest doing sit-ups and squats regularly.

(Toe, if you read this . . . stfu. )

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#85194 - 06/17/05 09:10 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Font]
thegreatbrandini Offline


Registered: 05/14/05
Loc: Piedmont, Oklahoma
i hope....
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06-07 Tenors
07-08 Snare

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#85195 - 06/17/05 01:09 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: thegreatbrandini]
Font Offline


Registered: 12/27/04
Loc: Miami, Fl
Suck it up. You will, trust me. In my first day of Auditions, I couldn't hold the drums up for 30 seconds without shivering and feeling like I'm gonna die. Now, I barely feel it until after 5 or so minutes. And as time goes on, especially when Band Camp comes around, I'll get more and more used to it. Same thing will happen to you.

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#85196 - 06/18/05 08:02 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Font]
thegreatbrandini Offline


Registered: 05/14/05
Loc: Piedmont, Oklahoma
i know that thier heave..i was in the winter drumline this year and i stood still for 4 hours straight playing the same 2 songs over and over!!!!!but it was all fun
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Piedmont Highschool Marching Band
05-06 Tenors
06-07 Tenors
07-08 Snare

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#85197 - 09/04/05 03:23 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Font]
Toe Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 04/07/03
Loc: Miami, Fl
Quote:

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this coming year is my first year you march...im started to get scared........caus i have fairly bad posture and i never exersize...(starts to get scared about first band camp)




Don't worry about it, dude. This is my first year Marching, and I'm playing Tenors as well. Just don't get scared. I used to never exercise, and I used to hunch over when I walked. Marching Band'll fix you right up real quick. The last thing you should do is get scared because of some drum/s. YOU march the drums, the Drums don't march you. You'll get used to the Tenors, even without a back brace (I did.). I suggest doing sit-ups and squats regularly.

(Toe, if you read this . . . stfu. )





"Hi I'm tenors, and I march Font"

suck it up nancy boy.
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Boston Crusaders 2002 - Top Bass
Magic of Orlando 2004 - Bassdrum tech
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Paradox Percussion Theatre 2006-07 - Exec. Director
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#85198 - 09/04/05 11:25 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: jowe]
Bass1freak Offline


Registered: 11/12/04
Loc: Horsham Pa.
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IMO, going to the chiropractor or taking (legal) drugs is going around the problem. Two things are possible:
1- The harness fits your in correctly. If you have Pearl equipment like my school, it's probably sucky and might be broke. Find a model online and make sure yours looks exactly like a new one does. My harness for indoor was a 'Frankenstien' harness, made of two extremely broke ones, and it broke at finals for a WGI regional... not fun when your playing bass 5.

2- You aren't strong enough. Now, I don't mean to be mean at all, but some people are more in shape than others. As chompchomp stated, stretch. It's the best thing you can do to make it easier.




I totally agree on the sucky harnesses (we go to the same school, and his drum was like hanging off of the harness). A good harness would help a lot, because it would actually be made correctly.

I never actually had a problem on bass drum with back pain. Maybe just a little with bass 3 because I was tiny in 9th grade, and the harnesses were bad. Now on snare I am having major back pain. I mean it could be that I am a girl and the vest harnesses suck for girls with a top, but it must sit on a nerve or something and hurts my whole left leg and my back. I fix that by just taking some hardcore ibeprophen before practice everyday. A massage never hurts either .
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Hatboro-Horsham Marching Band-'02-'05
'02 Clarinet - '03 Baritone - '04 Bass 1 - '05 Snare
H-H Innovations Percussion Ensamble-'03-'05
'03-'04 Bass 3 - '05 Bass 2
Jersey Surf-'04 Baritone - '05/'06 Front Ensamble
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#85199 - 09/05/05 08:21 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: bacquads5]
Yang Offline


Registered: 04/16/05
Loc: Lee County, Georgia
Just relax, adjust harness, good posture. Back pain will always be there but the real questions is how much back pain?
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02-05 Concert Band
05-06- LCHS Cymbal Line

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#85200 - 09/23/05 08:12 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
FlamSlamDevil Offline


Registered: 05/11/04
Loc: NC
Put your hands on your knees and spreadem then bend over and let the back of your harness rest on your shoulder blades but let the drum hang....
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#85201 - 09/23/05 10:32 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: FlamSlamDevil]
AsianTenorGuy Offline


Registered: 07/29/03
Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Don't fool yourselves.....you are always going to have back pains....maybe not as bad as first, but come on. You can't tell me that everytime you take off your drum...that you don't feel a sense of relief.
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Sometimes....when I am putting oranges in a circle, I think of my thoughts and they make me laugh. (Celebrity Jeopardy)

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#85202 - 09/23/05 10:36 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: AsianTenorGuy]
Baker Offline


Registered: 12/17/04
Loc: PA
Quote:

What I have heard from numerous instructors who have been through it all is to ice, stretch (but not stretch more than you are used to as it can also cause injury), and ADVIL.




I wouldn't think that ice would be too good...it's just going to tighten up your muscles.
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#85203 - 09/23/05 10:39 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: bacquads5]
Anonymous
Unregistered

after a little wile in rehearsal my back pain usually goes away, but i don't know what to do about getting rid of it.

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#85204 - 09/24/05 05:29 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
Anonymous
Unregistered

yea...I have same problem...neck too...I usually crack em during playing which is not a good thing.....I'd say get some icy-hot pad and put it on during playing....I haven't tryed it yet...but in theory that would help a whole lot..:)

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#85205 - 09/25/05 02:33 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
cymbal_monkey Offline


Registered: 10/21/04
Loc: Toledo/Metamora, OH
Back pain is horrible. I went from playing cymbals to first bass, from last year to this year, so I wasn't even ready for the weight of a bass drum. I'm only 5'0'', and pretty skinny, so carrying it was interesting. Our harnesses are really, really old (for whatever reason, tenors and snares got new harnesses three years ago when we got new Pearl drums, but the bass harnesses are from the last set of white ones, and are XL Lite somethingorother's, and incredibly uncomfortable) and don't fit well. But I eventually got over the pain by just getting used to it. I tend to take the drum off every so often and roll my shoulders and it provides a temporary relief.

I don't know if I'm weird or what, but I 'prefer' the back pain to the pain in my arms I had from cymbals. That was totally not fun.
_________________________
Proud Member of the EHS V-Line
'04-'05: Cymbals
'05-'06: 1st Bass

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#85206 - 09/25/05 04:55 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: cymbal_monkey]
STmanEL Offline


Registered: 09/17/03
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Well, basically what everyone else said... To ease it during down time (when you can't take off your drum, but no one notices), I'd just give the waist a bend down. I also flip the drum up if there's no need to play at times. Also, before the season starts up, just carry a drum in increasing intervals of time. Like one day, just carry it for half an hour while doing something else (I would do homework). The next day, i would try it for 45 minutes.

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#85207 - 09/25/05 05:31 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: STmanEL]
Sage_of_music Offline
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Registered: 04/14/05
all i can say is build a bridge and get over it.... don't think about it... and it wont hurt trust me i martched bass 5 my freasman year and then tenors now... just deal with it.. the fat guys rule: don't complane about what you took on when you signed up... and fliping them up allways helps

DCI is Better

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#85208 - 09/25/05 09:31 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Sage_of_music]
AdamP152 Offline


Registered: 09/25/05
Loc: Cary/Greenville NC
Just like everything else related to drumming; its all about conditioning. other than that, my recommendation would be:
1- get the harness to fit you correctly
2- wear appropriate shoes
3- use good posture
4- get use to it
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#85209 - 12/23/05 03:46 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
druminiam Offline


Registered: 12/03/04
I would like to know that same answer. I went to the Boston camp this year and tryed out for tenors. After the visual rehearsal I thought my back was going to break. Those drums were so heavy.

Donny

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#85210 - 12/23/05 11:11 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: AdamP152]
Anonymous
Unregistered

I agree, my high school had oldddddd harnesses for the snares, tenors, an basses. my back hurting so bad, it felt like i broke a bone or something. my back was like that for a week but i just had to get over it because it was band camp.

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#85211 - 12/23/05 11:21 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
Cheese Offline


Registered: 02/27/05
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I don't think the pain completely goes away but having good posture can really help.

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#85212 - 12/24/05 11:40 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Cheese]
WhyteSnowMan Offline


Registered: 02/15/04
Loc: Alamo, Tx
The best advice anyone has ever given me regarding back pain was a friend of mine during sectionals one Saturday...

"Quit bein' a little ho and suck it up."

On a serious note, I think what jowe said about posture and harness adjustment are what contribute the most to back pain. Make sure you're harness fits you, you stand up straight, and you're in shape. Also, focus on your playing/marching!! Not only will it make rehearsal go by a lot quicker, but the pain won't seem as severe.
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Revolution Snare 2006
Revolution Snare 2007
Revolution Snare 2008

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#85213 - 12/24/05 11:55 AM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: WhyteSnowMan]
Anonymous
Unregistered

I think the only pain you should feel on your back should be similar to your hands after a chop exercise. They should feel tired, but no sharp pains, and they should be sore for a few minutes after you stop. Any pain other than that, such as a sharp stinging pain or pain like someone has punched you should not be there if you have correct posture and good, working equipment. The muscle soreness should go away after a few weeks of good posture and workouts. Always stretch before and after tracking, or carrying your drums for a long time. If this doesn't eliminate back pain, then refit your harness to yourself and make it as snug as possible, to make the drums seem like an extension of your body. If none of this works, consult a doctor. BTW I got this info from my friend who marched corps, so it has some validity.

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#85214 - 12/24/05 01:13 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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Quote:

I agree, my high school had oldddddd harnesses for the snares, tenors, an basses. my back hurting so bad, it felt like i broke a bone or something. my back was like that for a week but i just had to get over it because it was band camp.




Same here. My school's harnesses dosnt have pads on the sholders! But i quickly found out that having good posture and dont make any weird movements in them the pain basicly goes away.

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#85215 - 12/24/05 05:15 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
DrumBum515 Offline


Registered: 08/29/04
Loc: Beaver County, Pennsylvania
If you have back pain the use "Doans" back pills. They are over the counter and they work Great!
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#85216 - 12/24/05 07:03 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: DrumBum515]
DCI_Dreamer Offline


Registered: 11/13/04
Loc: Weslaco, TX
When you have back pain do these two steps.
1.Suck it up
The more you think about it, the worse it's going to get. Let your mind drift away from the pain and think about something else.
2.Stand upright
If you bend your back, it will only come back later. Don't ever bend backwards though, if you must bend, do it going forwards. This may look stupid, but it will save you from having back problems in the future. I learned this from the director at Texas A&M University. He experienced this personally, so he highly recommended this himself.
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#85217 - 12/27/05 12:54 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: bacquads5]
Anonymous
Unregistered

I would say take advil before and after a rehersal. It will make you sort of numb to the pain. Overall, you just need to tough it out and pretend its not there. Think about your drumming instead of your back pain. Thats what i usally do. You can block out most of the pain if you try really hard.

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#85218 - 12/27/05 12:58 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
Mandrake Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Loc: Band room attic
I ended up at the chiropractor with pulled ligaments so just be careful take pain meds strecth, take breaks if you need them. But dont let it get in your way, your mind is stronger ^_^ so concentrate on your playing and not on pain
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Sun Valley High School Spartan Sound

03' - bass - freshmen
04' - tenors - sophmore
05' - tenors - junior
06' - tenors - senior

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#85219 - 12/27/05 04:57 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: bacquads5]
Anonymous
Unregistered

Stretching is a big factor along with Ibuprophen. Most people don't stretch properly, you need to stretch and hold that stretch. How many stretches you do isn't as important as doing them properly and holding them. Motrin or Advil will help at the beginning of your season, taken before practice will knock down the inflamation and along with stretches and and correct posture, you can have a pleasurable show or practice. If its from muscle weakness, then you need some basic exercises in building the muscles that need the most help.

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#85220 - 02/15/06 08:12 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
Anonymous
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I just get my friend to walk on my back and pop it. Helps for a little untill rehersal is over than i like to take a really hot bath to sooth the pain.

Soup_nazi

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#85221 - 02/15/06 09:58 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: ]
Divalish Global Moderator Online   content


Registered: 04/16/03
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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I just get my friend to walk on my back and pop it.




Not really a good idea - you can crush an organ or displace something that was fine in the first place.
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Crossmen '02-'03
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#85222 - 02/16/06 04:49 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Toe]
DrumlineChick08 Offline


Registered: 05/17/04
Loc: Norfolk, VA
The pain never goes away, you just get used to it. Stretching, but not overdoing it, helps. Good posture and how the harness/drums sit on you play a big part in it too. Standing with a lean can cause pain and sometimes you don't know you're doing it, took me half a year to realize it my freshman year. Also, if the drums are too low on you, it will strain your back and cause pain (the way lifting heavy stuff all day could). Be sure you are marching right, as well. Also, it might be a good idea if you go to the doctor if the pain is getting unbearable and you've been marching a while. Scholiosis (sp?) can screw you up. Also, our top bass hurt her back really bad somehow (never found out how, sorry) but now she can't marching because of it. I remember seeing her as we marched off the field and the second the drums got off, she was in tears. If you are experiancing similar, you really need to go get that checked out. Like everyone seems to have stated, ADVIL HELPS!
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Snare-2005/2006 (Phantom of the Opera)
Snare-2006/2007 (The 1002nd Arabian Night)
Snare-2007/2008 (South American Sketches)

[-Old Dominion University-]
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#85223 - 02/16/06 05:17 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Mandrake]
Anonymous
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http://www.cbass.com/Furey.htm
I gurantee that the body bridge will help you if you are experiencing back pain. It strengthens you up like a mofo, and it only takes a couple minutes out of your day. You don't necessarily have to do the hindu squats or pushups along with it, but those would also help you to build overall fitness. GO FOR THE BODY BRIDGE!!!

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#85224 - 02/16/06 07:28 PM Re: Back pain!!!!! [Re: Mandrake]
HybridRudi Offline


Registered: 10/18/05
Loc: NC
Ibuprofen we salute you.

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