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#76803 - 03/27/05 01:19 AM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: Drummer85]
Cadet311 Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: North NJ
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If you wanted to be an azz.... then you tell the guys up front that if they want to run their own line then challenge you and then beat them in a drum-off and tell them "That's why I'm leader, get over it!". If you act like an azz, you may get more enemies than friends or you may get respect because a freshmen can beat an upperclassman at playing. There are reasons that the BD selected you for leader. Playing ability, responsibility, potential, etc. are all factors for being the Section leader. Either way, just let the hassling run off the shoulder and just play your part. Not your fault if the line refuses to play clean or anywhere close to good.




That will just make the situation worse. Don't do that. They'll disrespect you even more. And besides, a leader does not need to be a good player, he needs to be a good leader. However, being in a leader position, the first person that will be targeted when the line is sloppy or not playing is going to be you.
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#76804 - 03/27/05 11:55 AM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: Cadet311]
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Registered: 03/04/05
Loc: North Bergen, NJ
If you've been put into the position you're in, you're obviously fit for it (unless the BD has seriously made a big mistake), so don't budge. If they want to be idiots, then it's only human nature. But eventually they'll realize that you're better and they can only learn things from you if given the chance. You might want to talk to your BD about it if you feel that this might become a problem with the cleanness of the line. But other than that, people will be people.

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#76805 - 03/27/05 12:21 PM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: CnyCMallets]
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Registered: 12/24/04
Loc: Middle Township New Jersey
do you try to be tight with them and get to know them? And are you sure that you dont make it look like you look down on them. Because when you're a leader of a section, it isn't about looking down on everyone because you're better, but it's about leading a group and being the dominant voice, but not the rude one. This is happening to me this year, i am leader of the tenor line, and the other tenor player is a sophomore so he tends to hate me because i play a little better. You just gotta treat them like they're your family. Things go wrong all the time, theres always fights, but you should make sure ur at the same level as them, and never be cocky.

If you've done all of the above, then I'd leisurely talk to them one at a time. I came up to my tenor player the other day and i held his hand real tight, and we made a pact, that we're going to make it a good season, we're not going to fight, we're not going to go behind each others backs, and we're ALWAYS there for each other. In my school at least, you'd never hesitate to stick uo for someone in your section
outside of band, my drumline IS my family. Thats how u gotta be.

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#76806 - 03/30/05 08:11 PM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: TenorHolicBaBi]
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Registered: 12/21/02
Loc: UTM, Martin, Tennessee
You need to talk to your line and ask them what they want out of you since well they are throwing down parts. Talk to your BD as well about this since he or she is the head person of the band. I am sure that the BD made no mistake in putting you in charge of the line. The rest of the line needs to grow up from it. In that meeting that you can have explain what YOU want out of the line. Also, ask if it would be better to listen to each other's ideas sometimes about doing things within the playing and other stuff. Maybe a junior in your line or a senior knows some stuff that be easier with a part of a song or cadence. Ask for their input on leading the line and such. Make them feel important. To me that is what I think it's going on.
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#76807 - 03/31/05 12:56 AM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: brittciampa]
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Registered: 03/29/05
The same thing is sort-of happing on my line. The thing is im not really big or strong so when i tell someone to do something they will just endup beating me up or ignoring me. I find the best solution is to let the line run itself. Everyone knows what to do. Just dont be to bossey. Just be set back and relaxed. People will respect you for being nice and not mean. If your mean your line will hate you and they will just try to tic you off. Or just get the best senoir and tell him to tell the line to listen up. If anyone has a problem with that YOU SERVE THEM!!!!!!!(no, that makes things worse.)

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#76808 - 04/11/05 07:10 PM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: jackson]
thundermonkey77 Offline


Registered: 04/03/05
Loc: Walker, Louisiana
I'd say that I have seen a lot few lines like that but they will get over it. It might take a long, long time, but they will get over it. Try to show them some cool things to play or groove to without getting mad or anything, and if they get mad then just kill em with kindness, and just be another drummer in the line and not the best snare. Agree with them a lot too when they have ideas.
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#76809 - 04/12/05 12:18 PM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: thundermonkey77]
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Registered: 07/18/04
I was in that same position. My line hated me when I was a Freshman. They thought since I was new I didnt know anything. was me a a bunch of people on the line that were older than me. Finnaly after about 2 months of just playing and giving them all respect they all finnaly came to focus and started playing the right things. Ussualy they all mess around and ignore me when we setup. Just talk to em straight and tell them that they need to respect you. worked for me. It might work for you. but it really did suck haviing noone listen to you when your the captin.

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#76810 - 04/12/05 07:25 PM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: ace2106]
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Registered: 02/25/05
seniority plays a huge role, whether you're the best player or not, whether the BD/instuctor gives you support or not, and whether you're really good friends with every member outside rehearsal or not.
it's a part of being in high school. the same happens in college as well, and in drumcorps. i'ts a natural state to NOT want to take orders, for lack of a better term, from someone that hasn't been there as long as you have.
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#76811 - 04/12/05 11:21 PM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: brittciampa]
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Registered: 01/21/05
Loc: Galloway, NJ
tell them to stop being immature, learn their parts, practice, then earn their spot.
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#76812 - 04/29/05 12:15 AM Re: AAAAHH! My line HATES me! [Re: SnareMan124]
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Registered: 09/04/04
Don't "Tell" your line anything. Set the example. Get there 20 minutes early, leave 20 minutes after everyone else, and make sure your work is as close to spotless as possible. At that point, your clout becomes more deserved, and some might even think, "I've got to be better than the freshie," and take it like a challenge. The least that happens is you get better, and you'll have more street cred for next year.
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