What are some Pipe Band rudaments that aren't really used in western drumming? I'd like to incorporate some into a new piece I'm writing.

Could you notate these by any chance?

i compete in a pipe band and if you would like i could scan and send the rudiment book that we use and it teaches you all of the rudiments and rolls that scottish drumming uses but american doesn't use.

Pick up "Taking No Short Cuts" packet.

I hate it, but scotties love it.

Tap rolls, dead stroke drags, swiss army triplets

hornet drummer could u send me those rudiments heres my e mail steph_99186@hotmail.com thnx

yes i could, the book i use is "Taking No Short Cuts" by J. Reid Maxwell probably the best snare drummer in the world, both scottish and anything else, so i will work on getting that to you.

J. Reid Maxwell probably the best snare drummer in the world


He is a good drummer but I definetly wouldn't go that far.

If you use this packet then make sure that you have someone with a scot. background to explain it to you. His interpretation of musical notation is a little suspect to say the least. (Ex 11 stroke rolls)

Does any one have any Scotty Rudiments that they could send me? Perhaps even a copy of the therefore mentioned packet? "Taking no Short Cuts"?

Yeah, I picked up that packet. It's one of those "So easy, it's hard" type of things. A lot of things are very hard at the mentioned tempos.

I've been playing for many years, but I just started playing in a pipe band. From what I understand, dead drags are a drag interpretation where the grace notes are played as a 'dead' stick (stick pressed directly into head -- very short buzz). To me, it sounds like a flam where the grace note is very tightly buzzed.

As for 'tap rolls', I believe you are referring to roll notation that has an accent over it. These are the typical Scottish buzz rolls that simply begin with a tap/accent.

Check this web site out... www.drumming.tk Click on scores and you can down load many of old and new scores from many popular and legendary pipe band drummers all in adobe format. All for practice..As far as dead sticks go..The best way too get the sound right is too almost over grip your stick on what ever stroke the dead falls on...no buzzes no silent rolls it is dead...wether traditional grip is used or or matched grip.. just grip the stick with an extra finger aside of the fulcrum and tip stick the head...imagine sitting behind a drum kit and kicking the bass pedal and letting it rebound...you will get a nice full thud...then hit the kick and press through the sound with the pedal not releasing your foot...you will get more of a dead sound...rolls...most rolls for 4/4 massed bands and other 4/4 and 3/4 tunes are either 7's and 13's. hope it helps...Matt

drumming.tk is a great website, and if you dig around for a while, you can find classic stuff in a computerized and accurate score. A lot of the the links are to copied handwritten transcriptions which are not the most accurate at times.