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#74037 - 04/13/07 03:50 PM
Re: sexist drumlines
[Re: MStatebass]
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Registered: 09/26/04
Loc: New Jersey
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I'm sexist, if it classifies, only because I try to encourage more girls to audition for the drumlines I teach. I do it for the same reason you'll find more women as bartenders, or club promoters, or cashiers...business. You'd have to be completely oblivious to think there's not a business in teaching a line. Getting girls to audition and rocking the $hit out of a drum grabs attention, not only from guys, but especially from other girls that thought it wasn't possible. I also like throwing it in the boys faces, and demonstrating to them that being a guy has nothing to do with chops or playing ability. Needless to say, as a man, I'm pretty much using one of our greatest weaknesses(women) as a form of insentive. But...my auditions are pretty much packed every year  So sexist? Yea. Mainly towards guys though in this sense. 
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#74039 - 04/24/07 09:51 PM
Re: sexist drumlines
[Re: Inversion]
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Registered: 06/08/06
Loc: Missouri CIty, Texas
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I'm sexist, if it classifies, only because I try to encourage more girls to audition for the drumlines I teach. I do it for the same reason you'll find more women as bartenders, or club promoters, or cashiers...business.
You'd have to be completely oblivious to think there's not a business in teaching a line. Getting girls to audition and rocking the $hit out of a drum grabs attention, not only from guys, but especially from other girls that thought it wasn't possible. I also like throwing it in the boys faces, and demonstrating to them that being a guy has nothing to do with chops or playing ability.
Needless to say, as a man, I'm pretty much using one of our greatest weaknesses(women) as a form of insentive. But...my auditions are pretty much packed every year 
So sexist? Yea. Mainly towards guys though in this sense.
Are you kidding me? Using young girls to promote your "business" of drumline? PLEASE tell me that you aren't for real. That's SO innapropriate.
Yeah, call me dificult, or whatever. I don't mind being dificult twords ignorant people. Girls don't want to be treated ANY differently than the guys. That means, of course, that we should be allowed to participate in the same way, but it ALSO should mean that you don't favor us just because we're "cute little girls".
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#169412 - 08/10/08 09:11 PM
Re: sexist drumlines
[Re: Percussionisto]
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Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
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Well, Old topic, but Oh well. We have a girl on the line, Nobody really wants to play percussion for us, Its mostly the guys. I think this may be because of the fact that we have woodwinds. All the girls (Seriously, There is no guy in the winds, well, one but he is, er) are on woodwind, and the guys fill up percussion. The band I'm in is mostly girls.
I do hate when girls try and pull the sexist card when they audition. I love having girls on the line when they can play it, We have one bass, shes amazing at running the section. But the girls that try and call sexism when they don't get a spot tends to annoy me. Not trying to be a jerk, but if you can't play it, you can't play it. If you can hack it, I would love to have a full female line, Just becuase the attitude. Most of the girls in the band don't show off, are not fast to show off, are well disciplined, can read music well, and are overall a better character I would want on the line.
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#169922 - 08/18/08 02:33 PM
Re: sexist drumlines
[Re: 9Volt]
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Registered: 08/17/08
Loc: Northern Virginia
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As the person at the top of the page said it is against the law to prohibit girls from being on the line unless it is privately owned.
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#169967 - 08/19/08 08:13 AM
Re: sexist drumlines
[Re: basschick_sara]
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Registered: 06/13/03
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I'm sexist, if it classifies, only because I try to encourage more girls to audition for the drumlines I teach. I do it for the same reason you'll find more women as bartenders, or club promoters, or cashiers...business.
You'd have to be completely oblivious to think there's not a business in teaching a line. Getting girls to audition and rocking the $hit out of a drum grabs attention, not only from guys, but especially from other girls that thought it wasn't possible. I also like throwing it in the boys faces, and demonstrating to them that being a guy has nothing to do with chops or playing ability.
Needless to say, as a man, I'm pretty much using one of our greatest weaknesses(women) as a form of insentive. But...my auditions are pretty much packed every year <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
So sexist? Yea. Mainly towards guys though in this sense. <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Are you kidding me? Using young girls to promote your "business" of drumline? PLEASE tell me that you aren't for real. That's SO innapropriate. Yeah, call me dificult, or whatever. I don't mind being dificult twords ignorant people. Girls don't want to be treated ANY differently than the guys. That means, of course, that we should be allowed to participate in the same way, but it ALSO should mean that you don't favor us just because we're "cute little girls". You're fabulous. Easy, killer. It appears that you have misread Inversion's intent with his section staffing practices. The involvement and encouragement of female participation in the percussion section is a great motivator for both their male and female teammates who may feel discouraged about their ability or even those that may require some extra weight on the challenge of improving their skills. I've been doing this activity longer than you've been breathing and will tell you that every year I do everything I can to get students involved, especially girls, for the exact reasons listed above with great success. And no, it certainly does not hurt our cause if the girls are attractive. Telling teenage boys with raging hormones they have to stand next to a girl they dig for 20+hrs of rehearsal a week is one heck of an incentive. At the drum corps level, that same scenario is jacked up ten fold. We provide a great opportunity for both sexes to participate in an activity were gender knows no bounds and further, having girls in your program balances out the male ego much better. For the record, my HS program currently has 6s, 3q, 5b, 4c and 10 pit. One snare, one quad, two bass, two cymbals and seven pit are girls. ALL my section leaders except the snares are girls.
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#171034 - 09/06/08 06:37 PM
Re: sexist drumlines
[Re: Airtickflight2]
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Registered: 09/06/08
Loc: Utah
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I've been teaching since the late 80's and some of my most talented drummers have been female. The reality is that society hasn't changed much in terms of the "roles" that the gender's choose to participate in. Generally speaking girls try out for flute, clarinet, sax, etc. and boys play trumpet, drums, etc. That's not how we as instructors set it up, but that is what kids choose. "All of my friends play flute, so I will too" is the attitude we see most often. We had a snare section leader who was female two season ago and she went on to play in college and is on a music scholarship, etc. Not only can she flam-it-up, she is an outstanding marimbist, steel drummer (lead) and also plays bass guitar like a pro.
Girls can cheese it up with the best of them...
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