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#57052 - 09/24/04 10:43 AM
Re: Advice...
[Re: SMDLbass5]
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Registered: 12/02/03
Loc: Michigan
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If you are telling us all at dl.org the whole story, and it was simply you joking around saying "you suck" within the context of a lot of back and forth razzing going on, then your DM needs to lighten up and quite frankly, probably shouldn't be a drum major, or in any position of student leadership.
I don't know the extent of the authority your DM's have, but 700 push ups? There are directors that would lose their jobs making such a ridiculous statement and forcing a kid to do this.
If this keeps up between you and the DM, I would offer to her, nicely to both go to the director and work this out. If she won't, refuses, etc...I might consider going anyway if I were you, but tell the DM your intentions to be fair. Most likely she will reconsider and will go with you to talk to the BD so she can tell her side of it.
I'm also going to go out on a limb and assume that this wasn't the first time, and won't be the last time your DM will go overboard with her perceived position of authority, so you are helping everybody out by getting this situation under control.
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#57056 - 09/24/04 02:04 PM
Re: Advice...
[Re: drumholio]
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Registered: 06/16/00
Loc: Southern MD
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I'm sensing that because of the ridiculous discipline options that those (option 1 and option 2) were sarcastic and YOU were the one who took it too serious.
That's my take atleast. How could anyone take "700 pushups" seriously. Seems sarcastic to me...either way...just let it pass. If there seems to be some friction, talk it over and maybe get the BD involved for mediation.
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#57060 - 09/25/04 01:59 AM
Re: Advice...
[Re: Tenolo]
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Registered: 03/12/04
Loc: Chicago, IL
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SMDLbass5 said:
Ok... so heres what happened. Tonight at a football game, I got into a pickle. We were doing bus wars(joking). So I said to our Drum Major... "you suck". Well she got mad. She told me to keep my uniform on while everyone else could take them off. Well I took it off anyway. For two reasons. First cause that was a load, and second because my BD told EVERYONE to take just the jackets off. So I did what he said. Now we get back to the band room and she throws a hissy fit. She gave me the choice of 1. taking my shirt off putting a boll on my head and run around the band room yelling "the tomatoes are coming" 2. do 700 push-ups.
I picked neither and will still not do them. I have made my descision. I want to know what would you have done? Do you think I was correct?
Frankly, I find this all very difficult to believe. Perhaps there is some heavy exaggeration going on? 700 push ups? Really, I find this difficult to believe...I call shennigans.
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Quintdrummergrl said:
That's why you sit and stay quiet in bus. If she told you to leave your jacket on, you should have listened to her. Don't mind what bd said. It was a "punishment" that drum major gave you for acting immature. Even the band director have said that EVERYONE should take their jackets off, you were an exception. Besides that, telling her that she "sucks" is just wrong. I know you were joking but surely you didn't expect something good to come out of that. Did you? Sorry to tell you this, but I think you deserve those punishments. After 700 push-ups you might learn your lesson. ;D
Spoken like a true prodigy QuintDrummerGirl....Perhaps you could teach us all lessons in discipline and how to conduct ourselves properly? After all, you seem to know how everything should go...including how MAM should run his drumline
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#57062 - 09/25/04 05:26 PM
Re: Advice...
[Re: Divalish]
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Registered: 06/04/04
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Divalish said:
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Who actually does that on a BAND bus?
Our band does that. There are some occasions where we would sing but not like disasterous bus war or anything.
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Wow. Just wow. Going over the director's head? Try again.
Drum major is like an assistant band director. When he (band director)'s not there to discipline the kids, drum majors are in charge. If their band director was there and heard him saying "you suck" to the drum major, he could given harshier punishments rather than just telling him to leave his jacket on.
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He's a drummer. He said "suck" to a girl. Of COURSE, he thought something good could possibly come out of that
What does that have to do with this really? I don't see your point there.
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And what lesson is that exactly? That he should listen to a kid and give them more respect than an adult? That bus wars are acceptable as long as the drum major isn't insulted? That the drum major sounds like she's on a power trip? Enlighten me because apparently, I suck.
To listen to instructions of leaders and follow them. Band s a group activity. If everybody could do as they want, everything will fall apart. That's why there is drum major(s). They will cover anything band director is missing and try to bring the band together. Therefore you must listen to them and do as they tell you. His drum major didn't give him harsh punishment for saying that she sucks. She just told him to leave his jacket on, which's like nothing comparing to 700 push-ups that he got later on for not following her order.
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