thx yall for the help yall are given me. i realyy appreciate it! also the percussion section isnt the worst one either, the trombones are complety more bad and absolutly no respect for our bd......most of the people in my line are freshman, though i am glad all of them exepct like 1 of them(besides me) are quitting next year! of course we had like 11 people on the line(inludin pit and me) and 5 are feshman, 2 is sophmore 4 are juniors and no seniors........also my drum captain and me are good buds, and i have a very high respect for him cause he has taught me a WHOLE LOT about drumming. almost everything. and i am still learning more and more! and i am also goin to try out for the cavies for the 05 season and my drum captain is in full support of me and is even helpin me with anything that i need help on....like i said before thx yall very much for all this advice...

It is my opinion that the instructor's job is to instill in the drumline to SET THE EXAMPLE FOR EVERYONE ELSE. he or she should teach the drumline how to rehearse, including what is acceptable and what is not. This philosophy takes time to set in the minds, but it will happen.

*cough* did you just say more bad?

lol...I used to teach in Carencro. I know what you mean. lol

You've been seriously misinformed. If there is rehearsal etiquette problem that is hindering the learning abilities of others in the line, something MUST be done to reverse that effect. By allowing that process to continue, it not only allows for future problems within the ensemble...but you are cutting your productivity time in half.

Section leaders are assigned by the instructors to keep their section in check. They should be assigned by their character, ability to lead, and ability to enforce the rules set forth by the staff....it's not necessarily given to those with the best abilities. If the instructor is not present, the section leader assumes the role. There is no reason for talking in the middle of rehearsal, no reason for disrespect among members and or staff and members.

Point in case, that's an unacceptable structure and taking the "I'll just let someone else handle it" approach is only hurting the ensemble more.

Forgot to address the initial post.

If it continues even after your director asks them to stop, and you feel that your ability to learn is hindered...you then have the right to talk to your school's principal or administrator. Every student has the right to a equal education and a positive learning environment. If students are out of control and disrespectful of the teacher, they need to be pulled from the class and dealt with.

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I'm reading this book(it's REALLY old...) and it says to use sort of a reverse aproach to getting people to do what you want... you have to figure out (or ask them-duh...) what they want out of an experience such as... oh, I don't know... let's say,... winter drumline!! and turn this into a way of keeping your line in order... try this... I strongly believe that this will work...