my drumline is very undiscplined! they always talk while in the middle of rehersal with the whole band. the clown around and act like fools the whole time. they play louder and and worse if you tell them to stop playin the wrong thing(they place the oppostite of what we are supposed to) and if you tell them to stop talkin the look at you stupid and continue. even when the bd tells them to stop talkin, they continue right after he tells them. what the heck should we should! plz help!!!!! i cant stand it anymore!!!

I have the same problem in my pit. I decided that if my section leader wasn't going to do a thing neither will I. So don't do anything they are the ones that are going to look stupid. That is my advice to you. Maybe someone later on will discipline them the way they are to be disciplined. Like tonight, my section leader was not there for our warmup part of the rehersal and since I was the veteran I had to take over and the freshman talked back to me saying I wasn't section leader. All I said was that "I may not be section leader but the section leader was not here and we needed to warmup." It took them a minute to actually start warming up but things will change next year when I will be section leader.

We've recently discussed several disciplinary strategies that can help in these situations...

Check the discipline vs hazing thread in general drumline info.

Sounds like the drumline I'm in

As a drumline instructor, I know how aggravating it can be to have a line that lacks discipline. I walked into a similar situation this past season, inherited from a former BD who didn't give a crap what the kids did during practice. So it's not my guys' fault that they don't have any discipline--they never really learned any. Anyway, I have a few bits of advice that may help you:

1. Sounds like you need some leadership. If not section leaders, then at least a drum captain, or better yet, co-captains (this way they can rely on each other for backup.)

2. A temporary fix is to keep them busy. When they aren't playing for real, they should be hacking on pads or rims or anything not loud. The busier they are, the less opportunity for messing around they'll have.

3. Make them watch some "lot" videos. Sounds like they need some incentive to rehearse well, so show them how awesome a line can be with good rehearsal etiquette.

4. Be patient. Behavior change takes a reeeeeeeally long time to take effect. I'm still working on my guys, but they're getting there.

Z

Well that is the advice that I got from other people who are instructors so its not really all my fault. Well the disciplinary actions should be taking by the instructors anyway.

Sometimes you cannot do everything on your own.
Who is your section leader drummermaniac?

Sorry to say, but you got some bad advice.

You can always lead by example...even if you aren't section leader.

To discipline a line is not the section leader's job, first of all, it's the instructor's job. It takes the section leaders to inforce it. You cannot just take over the whole line by yourself. The instructor takes over the line and appoints leader and those are the ones that enforce it. If they do not do whatever they are supposed to do then you might want to talk to your instructor about punishments. Only after you talk to your instructor about it you can give punishments out. Someone has to lead but it depends on the person who is leading. That person may not have the skills to lead or get the attention of the line but that is what a leader tries to do and succeeds at it.

Who are you talking to? Are you responding to me?