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#31179 - 12/22/03 01:42 PM
MY LINE IS GOING TO SUCK NEXT YEAR!
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Registered: 07/29/03
Loc: Baton Rouge, Louisiana
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Okay, as the title says my line is going to suck next year. We are losing one snare, one tenor, and (maybe) one bass player (if I can convince her to stay). Plus, our band director for some reason is buying another snare (I guess to let someone else play snare or something) which means we will have to put another person from the bass line on snare, leaving us only 2 veteran bassline players!(we usually have five, but one says she is quiting, another has to go on tenors, and another is going to tenors) Now, we are only getting one new freshmen and I am afraid that he too will have to march snare. This is definitly not what I had dreamed my senior year as the drum captain to be. As they say you are only as good as your weakest player and this is why I have a problem. The ONLY section that I and not worried about is the tenor line, but man I have to do something about my bassline! If this has ever happened to you or you have any, ANY advice please post it. 
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#31184 - 12/22/03 02:53 PM
Re: MY LINE IS GOING TO SUCK NEXT YEAR!
[Re: drumholio]
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Registered: 09/18/02
Loc: Brunswick, Maryland, USA
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That equals NOT GOOD!  Sorry mods... anyway, only 2 basses with 3 snares and 2 tenors? Imbalance is the right thing to say (though another not so clean saying would be appropriate), now a good balanced line would have 2 snares, 1 tenor and 4 bass, this way you can place the more inexperienced players onto bass and the more experienced on Snare and Tenors and it would allow for some killer sounding licks without the worry of Popcorn (or uncleanliness). The director should consult you, since you are the Section Leader to be, and find out what the line should be. It has to do with what you have to work with and what's good for the band, not what he wants. My suggestion to you is this: go to his office and request a meeting between him and you in concern about the drumline next year, this will show leadership and an ability to stand up for what you believe in, chances are he'll listen to your concerns and re-think the structure of the line.
Edited by BHSDRUMMER (12/22/03 02:55 PM)
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#31185 - 12/22/03 02:59 PM
Re: MY LINE IS GOING TO SUCK NEXT YEAR!
[Re: drumholio]
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Registered: 06/04/03
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people's talents are not static. this amazing thing happens sometimes, i like to call it getting better. i'm sure you were no jeff queens when you started out in your line, and whether you are or not right now is irrelevant. when people start out, they're bound to be a little worse than everyone else because they haven't been exposed. the way to keep your line from "sucking" as you so elegantly put it, is to give them goals and a successful way to obtain these goals. IE pick a cadence that isn't too hard for them, and then help them to learn it.
also, 2 vets on bass is VERY good. in my school people switch off of bass after a year, so we hardly ever have any vets. those 2 vets will be great, and if you can pull in from another section, 2 or 3 people, you can definitely have a rockin line in no time. those vets can probly whip a few people into shape pretty quick. i would consider that section to be a concern.
your tenor line is good you said... make sure they dont know that. they hafta know that they need to work as much as any other section even if they DO have the advantage in the naturalability department.
freshmen on the snareline... who cares? this is high school. the biggest age difference is like 3 or 4 years. think about that. are you really going to regard someone as being THAT bad just because you're 17 and theyre 14? they're obviously there because they want to play, so if you're so worried about it, teach them. offer private lessons over the winter before it starts up. even that head start will give them a heads up as to what to expect and it will also give your snare line a lot of unity from the get go, which is what you need.
don't see your members as pawns. see them as people. remember, they all want the same thing you do. if you have a positive outlook on all this (not saying that youre destined to suck no matter what) then things will happen and it'll turn out well.
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#31186 - 12/22/03 04:56 PM
Re: MY LINE IS GOING TO SUCK NEXT YEAR!
[Re: marimbaman]
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Registered: 11/09/03
Loc: Maryland, College Park
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My first year instructing, followed my last year in high school. Sadly when I left, so did all the other bass drummers. When I was with the other instructors in the summer they told me we had no returning bass drummers. we get to band camp I have one person that played tuba, and couldn’t march, had one of the snare players from the last season, he couldn't cut it on snare, a dude that had never been in a school band before, he played bass guitar and a little bit of drums and had a really good talent for music, he also marched in ROTC so I wasn’t worried about him, and another girl that though drums were cool but had no musical ability what so ever. Needless to say it took me 3 months, pretty much the entire season to get them into shape. And wouldn’t you know two of them graduated. Leaving me to piece the bass line back together this past year. I actually had to put back together the entire line. Only two people from the drumline in 2002, returned for the 2003 season. What I did was have the bass drummers come in an hour earlier to every practice to work on things. This gave them time away from the entire line and allowed them to focus better. Since I’ve played bass drum for years, and have read a lot of books on drum technique I was able to slowly teach these people. The biggest problem was getting them to want to get better.
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