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#166121 - 06/24/08 10:16 PM Re: Snares???? [Re: Slater]
SkyhawkDrummer Offline


Registered: 11/06/07
Loc: SoCal
sorry 9volt, thats what i meant....he wanted to remove the bottom head to retune the drum...hehe
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#166123 - 06/24/08 10:20 PM Re: Snares???? [Re: SkyhawkDrummer]
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Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
Oh really? Ive figured if you take down each snares tension, well one, (in theory) if you snag the gut there is a little more room for you to breath before snapping it. Also just so it's further away from the reso head.

But goodluck with that sFz after you fix everything, I can't stand attempting to tune those drums.
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#166170 - 06/25/08 08:02 AM Re: Snares???? [Re: 9Volt]
MCPWayne2005 Offline


Registered: 08/29/04
Loc: michigan
Originally Posted By: 9Volt


But goodluck with that sFz after you fix everything, I can't stand attempting to tune those drums.

Really? whats your beef with the SFZs
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#166175 - 06/25/08 09:32 AM Re: Snares???? [Re: MCPWayne2005]
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Registered: 12/29/05
The SFZ isn't significantly different than just about any other snare drum when it comes to tuning:

  • Tune the top head.
  • Tune the bottom head.
  • Tune the individual snare guts.
  • Adjust the tension on the snares.
  • Adjust the height of the snare strainer.
  • (Optional) Tape snares to adjust snare response and/or muffle bottom head to taste.


No matter what someone's done to the drum (like improperly tweaking individual snare guts as mentioned above), if you have the patience to properly address everything in this list, the drum will sound fine.

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#166179 - 06/25/08 11:02 AM Re: Snares???? [Re: SkyDog]
Slater Offline
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Registered: 03/01/08
Loc: Georgia
how tight do you put the bottom head?
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#166182 - 06/25/08 11:48 AM Re: Snares???? [Re: Slater]
SkyDog Offline


Registered: 12/29/05
Originally Posted By: Slater
how tight do you put the bottom head?


It depends on a whole lot of stuff...

What kind of head? Kevlar or aramid fiber heads like the Remo FaLam or Evans MX5 are going to be tuned higher than a Mylar head. Those heads are designed for higher tensions than Mylar can handle. To give you at least one specific answer, Bret Kuhn answered some questions on Remo's web site when he was with the Cavaliers. He mentioned their Remo Marching Ambassador (Mylar) heads were tuned to a D and their White Max batter heads were tuned to A. And the reason I mentioned the top head leads us to the next point...

How is your top head tuned? The pitch interval between the top head and bottom head has a pretty big effect on a drum's sound. For a really obvious example, check out the toms on a drum set. The same effects apply to a marching snare, although they're far less obvious because of the drum's tight staccato sound. I seem to recall Kevin Namaky (formerly of the Glassmen & Pearl) mentioning his preferred tuning was to go to a medium tension on the top head and tune the bottom a half-step higher.

What size drum? 13" drums will naturally have a higher pitch than 14" drums when the heads are tuned to a similar tension/feel.

Personal preference. Some people like 'em higher, some people like 'em lower. Some like their snare sound wet, others dry. The variables are pretty much infinite and there really isn't a right or wrong answer.

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#166185 - 06/25/08 12:06 PM Re: Snares???? [Re: SkyDog]
Slater Offline
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Registered: 03/01/08
Loc: Georgia
Head: I have a White Max batter head, and a Falam II resonator head.

Top head: I am going to tune it tight, but is there a certain like note i should tune it to?

Size: I have a 14"

Preference: I like the high pitched sound.


Edited by Slater (06/25/08 12:06 PM)
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#166191 - 06/25/08 12:33 PM Re: Snares???? [Re: SkyDog]
MCPWayne2005 Offline


Registered: 08/29/04
Loc: michigan
Originally Posted By: SkyDog
Originally Posted By: Slater
how tight do you put ]the bottom head?


It depends on a whole lot of stuff...

What kind of head? Kevlar or aramid fiber heads like the Remo FaLam or Evans MX5 are going to be tuned higher than a Mylar head. Those heads are designed for higher tensions than Mylar can handle. To give you at least one specific answer, Bret Kuhn answered some questions on Remo's web site when he was with the Cavaliers. He mentioned their Remo Marching Ambassador (Mylar) heads were tuned to a D and their White Max batter heads were tuned to A. And the reason I mentioned the top head leads us to the next point...

How is your top head tuned? The pitch interval between the top head and bottom head has a pretty big effect on a drum's sound. For a really obvious example, check out the toms on a drum set. The same effects apply to a marching snare, although they're far less obvious because of the drum's tight staccato sound. I seem to recall Kevin Namaky (formerly of the Glassmen & Pearl) mentioning his preferred tuning was to go to a medium tension on the top head and tune the bottom a half-step higher.

What size drum? 13" drums will naturally have a higher pitch than 14" drums when the heads are tuned to a similar tension/feel.

Personal preference. Some people like 'em higher, some people like 'em lower. Some like their snare sound wet, others dry. The variables are pretty much infinite and there really isn't a right or wrong answer.


To sum up what sky dog said...


Tune it to whatever you think sounds good. Tight and loose will give you a whole lot of different combinations of sound. play around with it until you got it sounding how you like.

Quote:
The SFZ isn't significantly different than just about any other snare drum when it comes to tuning:

* Tune the top head.
* Tune the bottom head.
* Tune the individual snare guts.
* Adjust the tension on the snares.
* Adjust the height of the snare strainer.
* (Optional) Tape snares to adjust snare response and/or muffle bottom head to taste


I have never had a problem tuning my SFZ. Are you telling me Dynasty and Pearl and other snare manufacturers for that matter do not adjust the tension of the snares or the height of the strainer?


Edited by MCPWayne2005 (06/25/08 12:37 PM)
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#166206 - 06/25/08 02:08 PM Re: Snares???? [Re: MCPWayne2005]
dredpir8roberts Offline


Registered: 10/23/07
can someone quickly clarify, there's a lot of people that have talked about tuning the bottom to a D and the top to an A, which head is higher?

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#166210 - 06/25/08 02:59 PM Re: Snares???? [Re: dredpir8roberts]
PolyesterHemiola Offline


Registered: 10/28/03
Loc: USA
For that tuning scheme I'm pretty sure that the bottom is the higher pitch.
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