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#164795 - 06/12/08 12:41 AM How should my posture be to avoid injuries?
FoxMcWeezer Offline
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Registered: 03/18/07
I'm a senior and it's my first year on battery. I can't help but feel that I'm standing incorrectly and that I'm doing some irreversible damage on my spine. I know things like not to lean back when your back hurts.

What's the proper back posture and way to stand while carrying a drum?

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#164797 - 06/12/08 12:56 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FoxMcWeezer]
9Volt Offline


Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
Well, I don't know exaclty what your line technique is, but with a snare, the best thing (I could think to do) would be to stand straight and suck it up.

You have the lightest drum on the line (Maybe bass 1 or 2 can fight) and this is your first year, you'll get used to the weight in no time. While you wait to get used to the weight, just be glad you don't play tenors.
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On the subject of a bad tenor player

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just to let you guys know, being a drummer, he meant to hit the rims, it's part of the effect. It changes it up a bit.

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#164833 - 06/12/08 02:46 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: 9Volt]
MCPWayne2005 Offline


Registered: 08/29/04
Loc: michigan
Originally Posted By: 9Volt
Well, I don't know exaclty what your line technique is, but with a snare, the best thing (I could think to do) would be to stand straight and suck it up.

You have the lightest drum on the line (Maybe bass 1 or 2 can fight) and this is your first year, you'll get used to the weight in no time. While you wait to get used to the weight, just be glad you don't play tenors.


Snare pulls a different way on the back than base drums do. (hence the location of where it sits.),so comparing to what that does to your back to what a bass drum will do isn't really correct. Also no need to be an a-hole about it he just asked a simple question.

As far as the posture question goes, it being your first year and all, your back muscles just arn't used to that weight, it might feel like your doing some damage now but most likely your not. You just need to strengthen those back muscles! The longer you do it the easier it gets trust me. Just stand with the normal posture, you know the kind that band directors love to preach in class.


Edited by MCPWayne2005 (06/12/08 02:49 PM)
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#164834 - 06/12/08 02:50 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: MCPWayne2005]
SnArE_4_LyFe Offline


Registered: 04/24/08
Loc: Florida
This year will also be my first year on snare and i am a spohmore and i know what you are going through. it takes time. after just 1 week it is much easire. just sont focous on the pain and focus on your playing and other things besides the pain.
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#164855 - 06/12/08 05:09 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: SnArE_4_LyFe]
SFZ541 Online   sleepy


Registered: 01/22/06
Loc: Sanibel, FL
As long as your body isn't contorted in some odd position you're probably using good posture. If you make sure your spine is fairly straight up and down and that the strain is in your lower back you should be holding your posture right. Try not to lean forward or back, you just have to get used to the weight, sucking it up really is the best advice as far as drum weight is concerned.
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#164899 - 06/13/08 10:40 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: SFZ541]
NungaDrum729 Offline


Registered: 11/06/07
Loc: NJ
Also, this has to do with your back more than your posture, but... A lot of people want to lean back when they relax to alleviate some of the pain and "stretch" their back. Actually, this compresses your spine and can lead to injury in some cases. Try leaning forward, and that will literally loosen up your spine, thus helping release some of the tension in there.
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#164908 - 06/13/08 02:20 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: MCPWayne2005]
9Volt Offline


Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
Originally Posted By: MCPWayne2005
Originally Posted By: 9Volt
Well, I don't know exaclty what your line technique is, but with a snare, the best thing (I could think to do) would be to stand straight and suck it up.

You have the lightest drum on the line (Maybe bass 1 or 2 can fight) and this is your first year, you'll get used to the weight in no time. While you wait to get used to the weight, just be glad you don't play tenors.


Snare pulls a different way on the back than base drums do. (hence the location of where it sits.),so comparing to what that does to your back to what a bass drum will do isn't really correct. Also no need to be an a-hole about it he just asked a simple question.

As far as the posture question goes, it being your first year and all, your back muscles just arn't used to that weight, it might feel like your doing some damage now but most likely your not. You just need to strengthen those back muscles! The longer you do it the easier it gets trust me. Just stand with the normal posture, you know the kind that band directors love to preach in class.


Please explain to me how I was being an A-hole?
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My favorite YouTube comment
On the subject of a bad tenor player

Quote:
just to let you guys know, being a drummer, he meant to hit the rims, it's part of the effect. It changes it up a bit.

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#164933 - 06/13/08 07:26 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: 9Volt]
XxPuRexX Offline


Registered: 01/27/08
Loc: Indigo
This works for tenors but I'm not sure for snare, leaning forward really far(while still holding the drum) I think is a lot better feeling than leaning back. When doing this you can take basically all the wieght off your back by resting the drum on your theighs and it stretches your back out also.

by the way this is not for while you are playing but just if they pain is really bad and you either don't want to take the drums off or you aren't allowed to or something like that.
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#164958 - 06/14/08 09:33 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: XxPuRexX]
SkyDog Offline


Registered: 12/29/05
Originally Posted By: XxPuRexX
This works for tenors but I'm not sure for snare, leaning forward really far(while still holding the drum) I think is a lot better feeling than leaning back.


That's still not particularly good for you. When you lift a heavy item from the floor, are you supposed to use your back or your legs? Rigggghhht... "Lift with your legs." Bending over with the drums on is pretty much the same stress -- you're using your back to carry weight as if you were lifting, which isn't exactly ideal. If you need relief, either fold up the drums or take 'em off.

While wearing the drum, keep your shoulders broad and your back vertical.

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#165402 - 06/19/08 05:02 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FoxMcWeezer]
FoxMcWeezer Offline
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Registered: 03/18/07
Thanks for the replies, and bump.

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#167450 - 07/11/08 06:35 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FoxMcWeezer]
FoxMcWeezer Offline
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Registered: 03/18/07
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#167454 - 07/11/08 08:01 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FoxMcWeezer]
MCPWayne2005 Offline


Registered: 08/29/04
Loc: michigan
did you not get a reply taht helped you?
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#168998 - 08/07/08 12:52 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FoxMcWeezer]
xp4nd00bi3x Offline
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Registered: 08/13/07
Loc: TX
i played snare last year and i found that you just need to stand straight and get used to it. you'll have a nice back by the time you finish your marching season

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#169674 - 08/14/08 03:34 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FoxMcWeezer]
JoeGrinstead Offline


Registered: 04/30/07
Loc: Indianapolis, Indiana
I went from an 18inch bass drum to frickin tenor drums, it sucks but you get use to the weight. Whatever you do don't lean back, a couple years ago one of our tenor drummer cracked a vertebrae, he had to were a back brace all the time for a year and during practice for another year
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#169684 - 08/14/08 06:21 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: JoeGrinstead]
scchsdrummer Offline
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
lmao i went from a 24" bass to tenor drums.
24" is kinda heavy but i adjusted to it by the first day of camp that year.
tenors on the other hand ...it took me like the first week.

just stand as straight as possible, and again don't lean back when in pain.
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#169690 - 08/14/08 10:38 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: scchsdrummer]
WCUPerc2012 Offline


Registered: 03/11/07
Loc: West Chester University
make sure your harness is adjusted to you, you should be able to stand up straight and "fill up" your harness. Just remember 3 points of contact: back, hips, and chest. also, when you have the time in between reps, bend over forward and stretch your lower back.
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#170650 - 08/30/08 02:57 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: WCUPerc2012]
FoxMcWeezer Offline
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Registered: 03/18/07
Thanks a lot, these are really good answers.

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#170740 - 08/31/08 04:30 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FoxMcWeezer]
FlamFlam49 Offline


Registered: 07/25/08
Loc: Texas
I've heard of the 3 points of contact before, but how do you get the snare carrier to touch in 3 places, mine only will do shoulders and hips and I can't think of a way to adjust it to fix that. It could be a thing that varies from carrier to carrier and just isn't possible on our style of carrier (I don't think any of my line has them set that way).

P.S. Our carriers are old, white Yamahas (not carbon fibre) if that helps.

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#170741 - 08/31/08 05:00 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: FlamFlam49]
SkyDog Offline


Registered: 12/29/05
With some people and some harnesses, you won't get contact at the chest. (Skinny guys just don't fill up some harnesses like some vests and Dynasty v-bars.) Just fill up the space between your body and the carrier as best you can. Stand up straight with your shoulders square and your chest full. Don't bend your back trying to push your chest forward to make contact.

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#170745 - 08/31/08 06:06 PM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: SkyDog]
A7xDrummer27 Offline


Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
putting your weight foreward will help you not to lean back get used to your weight being in the balls of your feet and you wont lean back, thus not hurting you spine
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#170779 - 09/01/08 12:10 AM Re: How should my posture be to avoid injuries? [Re: WCUPerc2012]
mrt_on_snare Offline


Registered: 07/25/08
Loc: texas
Originally Posted By: WCUPerc2012
when you have the time in between reps, bend over forward and stretch your lower back.


just dont over do it and pull or tear something in your lower back
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