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#163866 - 05/31/08 09:11 PM Dues...
Aaronicus Offline


Registered: 08/31/07
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So i had a pretty good idea and i want your opinion. Next year i was thinking of collecting dues from everyone in the drumline. We have more than 30 people in the drumline, so 20 dollars from each person is at minimum 600 dollars! Our BD is a little slow on buying stuff for the drumline, so this money would go to new heads (for snares too, like nine new ones before football season starts) and new auxiliary percussion etc...Quints always need new heads so this is what the money would go to. When the money runs out we go back to using the bands money. What are your thoughts? Good? Bad?
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#163869 - 05/31/08 09:24 PM Re: Dues... [Re: Aaronicus]
Creekynoise Offline


Registered: 06/21/07
Loc: Here
There are goods and bads to that. The bads are that there is a chance that not everyone will pay, and no one except the staff (like band director) can really force students to pay..even then they cant pay but then there will be consequences, but thats an entire band thing..it can be just a section. I think if you were to say collect donations, instead of dues, than that would be good. Good part is that is a good idea to get those kind of things on your own as band directors can be slow on percussion items.

My drumline doesn't do that, we rely on the band budget and thats not really even a budget since the school system doesn't really like us, we barely get a budget, which is like 100 times smaller than the football budget..which is a very unsuccessful program right now. If we collect money, its for drumline shirts nothing more.

As long as your not forceful than im sure some people would be willing to donate and that can help..even if its $100 and not $600, thats better than $0.
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#163934 - 06/01/08 04:06 PM Re: Dues... [Re: Creekynoise]
Aaronicus Offline


Registered: 08/31/07
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seems that donations would be a more courteous way of extracting money...And i guess if the drumline knew what the money was going to they would probably be willing to donate.
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  • Bass 2 | 2006-2007 | "Movie Extravaganza"
  • Quints | 2007-2008 | "Music of America"
  • Quints | 2008-2009 | "Tommy"


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#163968 - 06/01/08 07:25 PM Re: Dues... [Re: Aaronicus]
DigitalDrummer Offline


Registered: 10/03/06
Loc: TX
Thumbs down on the idea. Any sort of money collecting should by done by the band director only. You can bring up that idea with your band director, but if he/she isn't paying for your percussion stuff, there's probably a financial reason why.
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#163981 - 06/01/08 09:51 PM Re: Dues... [Re: DigitalDrummer]
jacoismyhero Offline


Registered: 11/28/05
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Unless the school district refuses to fund the band appropriately, no student money should be spent on maintance and upkeep of school equipment. Even in a situation of scholastic poverty, there are plenty of ways to raise funds beyond out-of-pocket payment. In my opinion it's morally wrong for students to rely on themselves to fund their education, be it difficult-to-purchase musical instruments, gym equipment, or textbooks. Your parents pay tax money already, so you should be getting your buck's worth.

If it's simply your BD being lazy and not taking the initative to go out and purchase what's needed to run his/her ensemble effectively, then just ask them about it. It's sort of stupid that a person who is in charge of an ensemble is refusing to take the time to buy the goods to make his/her group better.

Some things that I COULD see it being appropriate to collect money for, however, are sticks, since some people abuse their privilege of being granted sticks whenever a pair breaks, and goods that aren't necessarily "needed" but are desired, such as drumline uniform essentials like wristbands, or any other decorative items, as well as t-shirts and things that are just fun to purchase as a group.
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#163994 - 06/02/08 08:01 AM Re: Dues... [Re: jacoismyhero]
snarepaint Offline


Registered: 06/13/03
Clearly, none of the responses thus far have been from anyone who is an actual educator.

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In my opinion it's morally wrong for students to rely on themselves to fund their education, be it difficult-to-purchase musical instruments, gym equipment, or textbooks.


In all seriousness, do you plan on going to college? Because according to your moral beliefs, you can't.

Collecting dues, or the "tour fee" that my program has is the way we fund almost everything except fuel and repairs. Both indoor and outdoor members pay a flat fee of $100 to participate in each program, which covers everything except implements.

It also makes it much easier to pay staff members that the district doesn't have the money for. smirk
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#163995 - 06/02/08 08:17 AM Re: Dues... [Re: Aaronicus]
Divalish Global Moderator Online   content


Registered: 04/16/03
Loc: WV
Originally Posted By: Aaronicus
seems that donations would be a more courteous way of extracting money...And i guess if the drumline knew what the money was going to they would probably be willing to donate.


False.

I know that if my dues were OPTIONAL, I probably wouldn't pay them even if it was for the good of the order. Plus, there's always going to be someone who gets upset because they're giving more money so they deserve better equipment than those who weren't willing to donate, blah blah blah.

Believe me. It's easier just to say "Everyone bring in $20 for equipment." and post a list of who hasn't paid up for everyone to see.
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#164003 - 06/02/08 12:53 PM Re: Dues... [Re: Divalish]
Creekynoise Offline


Registered: 06/21/07
Loc: Here
Originally Posted By: Divalish
Originally Posted By: Aaronicus
seems that donations would be a more courteous way of extracting money...And i guess if the drumline knew what the money was going to they would probably be willing to donate.


False.

I know that if my dues were OPTIONAL, I probably wouldn't pay them even if it was for the good of the order. Plus, there's always going to be someone who gets upset because they're giving more money so they deserve better equipment than those who weren't willing to donate, blah blah blah.

Believe me. It's easier just to say "Everyone bring in $20 for equipment." and post a list of who hasn't paid up for everyone to see.


He can't force anyone to pay. He can do that list thing, but without the directors permission to enact a due collection, he just doesn't have the power to collect an actual due.
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BCHS Drumline
8th Grade '06-'07 ~ Bass
Freshman '07-'08 ~ Quads
Sophomore '08-'09 ~ Quints/Field Commander

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#164036 - 06/02/08 10:05 PM Re: Dues... [Re: snarepaint]
jacoismyhero Offline


Registered: 11/28/05
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Originally Posted By: snarepaint
In all seriousness, do you plan on going to college? Because according to your moral beliefs, you can't.


College is a choice. Public education for grades 1-12 is not. I know that this is a vague response to a well-pointed rebuttal, but I haven't a lot of time at the moment to respond in detail as to why I feel that way.
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#164060 - 06/03/08 12:38 AM Re: Dues... [Re: jacoismyhero]
drumcorpbc Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 05/12/03
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Actually, grades 1-12 is a choice as well. There is no law that says you must attend school.

You'd be shunned by society for the most part if you didn't go to school, but it's not a law.
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