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#169865 - 08/17/08 01:59 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: xp4nd00bi3x]
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Registered: 08/04/08
Loc: Walton, KY
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I have to say, its not as big of a problem as it used to be at my school. More often than not we have a problem with 8th grade wind players putting they're little hands all over our concert percussion instruments or drum set. They hardly ever would pick up a marching instrument or stick that wasn't laying out.
Edited by bryaxxe1 (08/17/08 02:00 PM)
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#169873 - 08/17/08 04:22 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: bryaxxe1]
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Registered: 08/07/08
Loc: Florida, USA
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This problem has to be as old as, well me, and that's pretty darn old. Here's how we handled the situation at my school. We had talks with the line, director, section leaders, entire band and even the kids in the concert,jazz and beginning classes. This helped some but the problem still persisted, especially with sticks going missing. We purchased a file cabinet and locked all our sticks and mallets up everyday. Only the director and section leader had keys. The next issue we faced was having the beginning band kids hitting bass drums with their 5As and leaving nice little dents in the heads. One of our parents built us a really nice cabinet to store all our drums and carriers (which they eventually expanded to hold horns and guard equipment as well). Once the drums were "out of site, out of mind" the problems were few and far between.
Lock up all sticks and mallets and store drums and carriers in an out of the way place if possible. The curious will, of course, find a way but this will limit their ability to mess up your gear.
Personally I always kept all my sticks and mallets in my stick-bag which was either locked in my locker or (usually) in my backpack.
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'89 Suncoast Sound
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#169884 - 08/17/08 08:16 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: bizob]
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
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we don't have a problem with other percussionists playing on another's. we encourage it. it's good to stay familiar with the drums you're not marching. actually last year a lot of times we would swap drums in the stands during 4th quarter. however if they mistreat the drum and damage it, don't put it back, etc then thats when the problem comes in.
Lock up all sticks and mallets and store drums and carriers in an out of the way place if possible. The curious will, of course, find a way but this will limit their ability to mess up your gear.
i would suggest this. we have a completely seperate room down the hall where all of our guard equipment and marching drums are stored.
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Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors
Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl
Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom)
The Sound of Patriotism
8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals
Earth Wind & Fire
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#170000 - 08/19/08 09:36 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: scchsdrummer]
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Registered: 07/25/08
Loc: Texas
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I am picky about people carrying "my" drum (or anyone else's) when they are either careless or clueless. If you don't carry a drum the right way or don't set it down the right way, you will damage the drum.
I am fine with people playing on different people's drums as long as they are practicing as opposed to goofing around. Practicing helps individuals to be better equipped to play that instrument should they choose to march it in the future, which helps our line as a whole. Also, there is a difference between goofing around and playing something for fun. If you are learning say an incredible tenor break for no reason but to have fun, fine; fun is the only reason any of us drum. However, if you just want to beat on a drum you can go blow the cash to get your own and destroy it, but when you didn't pay for the drum (an organization or other individual did) you have no right to damage their property by being careless or outright dumb.
Non-percussionists have no place touching a drum under any circumstances, I wouldn't play anyone's trumpet (much less damage it) so why should they play our drums.
Education and fun are OK, but when you cross into "stupid" territory, I draw the line. Examples of "stupid territory" include beating on drums in a non-rhythmic fashion, plucking snare strainers, running by and smacking a drum (as hard as possible) with your hand, stealing/ throwing other's sticks, and dropping drums (and I've seen all of these as I'm sure many of you have by percussionists as well as wind players).
My only advice: keep your sticks safe (locker, bag, backpack, etc.), talk to people who violate your personal rules regarding drums, don't set a bad example, getting your line on the same page is the only way to get the pit (where many of our issues come from) to stop violating boundaries, which is the only way to get non-percussionists to respect boundaries.
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#170004 - 08/19/08 10:20 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: FlamFlam49]
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Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
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I am picky about people carrying "my" drum (or anyone else's) when they are either careless or clueless. If you don't carry a drum the right way or don't set it down the right way, you will damage the drum.
I am fine with people playing on different people's drums as long as they are practicing as opposed to goofing around. Practicing helps individuals to be better equipped to play that instrument should they choose to march it in the future, which helps our line as a whole. Also, there is a difference between goofing around and playing something for fun. If you are learning say an incredible tenor break for no reason but to have fun, fine; fun is the only reason any of us drum. However, if you just want to beat on a drum you can go blow the cash to get your own and destroy it, but when you didn't pay for the drum (an organization or other individual did) you have no right to damage their property by being careless or outright dumb.
Non-percussionists have no place touching a drum under any circumstances, I wouldn't play anyone's trumpet (much less damage it) so why should they play our drums.
Education and fun are OK, but when you cross into "stupid" territory, I draw the line. Examples of "stupid territory" include beating on drums in a non-rhythmic fashion, plucking snare strainers, running by and smacking a drum (as hard as possible) with your hand, stealing/ throwing other's sticks, and dropping drums (and I've seen all of these as I'm sure many of you have by percussionists as well as wind players).
My only advice: keep your sticks safe (locker, bag, backpack, etc.), talk to people who violate your personal rules regarding drums, don't set a bad example, getting your line on the same page is the only way to get the pit (where many of our issues come from) to stop violating boundaries, which is the only way to get non-percussionists to respect boundaries. i compleatly agree...nothing makes me more mad then when i walk into our drum room during a free period and see some wind player banging on my drum. i have no problem with the cymbals or basses (or tenors but they usually dont) touching my snare...even most of the pit is ok. but the wind players beat on our stuff when they think we're not around. ive even cought kids stealing our stick if we leave them in our stick bags.
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07 Continuum - Bass Line - MAC Outstanding Percussion
08 Science of Music - Bass Line - WGI PSO Silver Medalist
08 Firebird - Snare Line
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#170011 - 08/19/08 11:09 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: FlamFlam49]
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Registered: 12/29/05
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Non-percussionists have no place touching a drum under any circumstances, I wouldn't play anyone's trumpet (much less damage it) so why should they play our drums.[/b] Wellll... I tend to bend this rule just a little bit. I actually encourage non-percussionists to try playing a drum or a mallet keyboard so long as they do it responsibly. While they try it, I'll offer some pointers if I have a moment. The reason? I've recruited a bunch of players this way. In our winter line last year, we had: * A saxophone player on vibes * A trombone player on xylophone * A trumpet player on bells * A clarinet player on marimba * A viola player on marimba * A horn player on synth ...not to mention our top bass drummer, who had never even played an instrument before.
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#170113 - 08/21/08 03:17 AM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: jofus]
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Registered: 07/25/08
Loc: texas
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Drumline equipment isn't played by anyone who isn't on drumline at my school. Thats why we have a "Drumline Closet" for the equipment so that nobody can go in there and just randomly bang stuff.
However, the pit equipment does stay out in the band hall...and we use to have a problem with people playing the keyboard instruments (cause they no one little tune on it and they have to show the world),the cymbals (probably cause they've never heard a small china cymbal and like how it sounds...or wonder why its "broken"), and setting stuff like books on top of the timpanis.
But now, on top of the timpani covers we have little signs that say "I am not a table! I am a musical instrument! Don't put your stuff on me!"...and probably cause if our percussion director sees anything on top of it he'll just shove it off...throwing your papers into a mess on the floor.
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06'-07' Cymbals (only year our cymbals have one any awards)
07'-08' Snare
08'-09' Snare (Section Leader)
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#170151 - 08/21/08 02:51 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: mrt_on_snare]
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Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
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Haha, My BD has that too. Our signs say "PUT THIS COVER BACK ON AFTER PLAYING! I AM NOT A TABLE!"
We used to have the problem, except, lucky for us, The winds didn't really care, it was more of the other percussionists. Most of the kids want/wanted to play tenors, so every chance they would get, I would find 3 bass drummers playing something simple and old (Ex. Brick house from the show a year before I was there) over and over again.
I just started yelling at people, and talking to the BD about it if he missed it. He already ripped people up when he caught them, if he didn't I would try and get his attention and let him rip them up.
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My favorite YouTube comment On the subject of a bad tenor player just to let you guys know, being a drummer, he meant to hit the rims, it's part of the effect. It changes it up a bit.
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#170255 - 08/22/08 10:51 PM
Re: They're My Drums!!
[Re: 9Volt]
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Registered: 08/21/08
Loc: Texas
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What happened to me once was that i was a playing a pair of tenors, and a friend of mine (whose tenors i was borrowing) was teaching me some random around pattern.The seniors walked up, thought i was using the drums without permission, and proceeded to rip me a new one.Only later did they realize i had permission in the first place.
But yes at our school it is a very big deal.Wind players(especially brass...don't know why) hit our drums with their hands every chance they get.We have had multiple problems with pit instruments being used as table.I might start putting up signs.
Edited by Snare21 (08/22/08 10:52 PM)
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