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#18864 - 11/09/04 02:29 PM
Re: The Definition of Music
[Re: Jake]
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Registered: 09/30/04
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Can music be interpreted by non-human and/or non-living objects? The music itself can be interpreted as a mood by some animals, according to something I saw on the discovery channel. Music is a universal language.
Is a cd player interpreting music or just data? The CD player itself is interpreting data only.
If it is interpreting data, than is audiation music? The audiation is music, but the music was merely converted to data, now it is being converted back into its original form. It is not as if the music has always been data.
Is sheet music, music? Sheet music is not music, it is comprehensive blueprints for creating music.
If nothing is around to interpret the sound waves representing music, is there music? This is eerily similar to "If a tree falls down and noone is around, does it make a noise?". My opinion is that it doesn't matter, if noone or nothing is around to interpret it, noone will know they are missing out. Everyone is blissfully unaware.
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#18865 - 11/28/04 01:27 AM
Re: The Definition of Music
[Re: nohs_drums]
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Registered: 05/26/03
Loc: White Hall, AR
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gosh . . . . seems like we're going around in circles. And I'm not necessarily blaming anyone, because, I guess when a thread gets this large, it can be easy to repeat something previously discussed. So . . . Quote:
Can music be interpreted by non-human and/or non-living objects? The music itself can be interpreted as a mood by some animals, according to something I saw on the discovery channel. Music is a universal language.
ok, yeah yeah. We've all heard the "universal language" lable. But the original purpose of this thread was to develop a more precise definition (based on the knowledge and opinions of many people). Now, I think it would be most useful if we would try to avoid the philisophical approach, as that could get a little carried away. (Too many opinions) Now, I don't agree with the music being interpreted as a mood (such as with animals). It can certainly AFFECT mood, however.
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Is a cd player interpreting music or just data? The CD player itself is interpreting data only.
If it is interpreting data, than is audiation music? The audiation is music, but the music was merely converted to data, now it is being converted back into its original form.
Ok, this is a prime example of something which has been discussed MANY times thus far. But, I will again state what I have determined from those discussions. A CD contains data. A CD player converts that data to noise. (Notice no mention of "music" yet). Now, as part of previous discussions, I still believe that music does not exist UNTIL it is recieved AND interpreted by the listener (be it a person, animal, plant, whatever) So, in my opinion, music exists only in the perception of those who perceive it. Quote:
Is sheet music, music? Sheet music is not music, it is comprehensive blueprints for creating music.
If nothing is around to interpret the sound waves representing music, is there music? This is eerily similar to "If a tree falls down and noone is around, does it make a noise?". My opinion is that it doesn't matter, if noone or nothing is around to interpret it, noone will know they are missing out. Everyone is blissfully unaware.
Well, let's put that paradox into different terms;
If no person is around to hear a CD player playing a "musical" CD (person being used loosely as anything capable of interpreting music in any emotional, mental, etc. . . capacity), then is there music present. . . . I don't think there is. Again, noise, no matter how "musical", is still noise without interpretation. Especially since, as said before, musical standards are based on our own understanding of them.
I'm sorry for repeating what has been discusses so MANY times before, but it keeps on coming up again, and again. You may have different opinions than mine, and if so, please post. We'll discuss and hopefully be that much closer to a precise definition.
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#18866 - 04/13/05 01:10 PM
Re: The Definition of Music
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Music Is an interpretation of the heart and soul...It is a way of exspressing ones self to others...BE it Jazz,Funk,Rap,Classical,Punk,Rock,Country,ect...It's like painting a picture...All the notes have to be just in the right place too make that wonderfull sound one is trying too accomplish...Same as in a painting( the perfect colors too match)...Music is a universal language...An a flat, or b flat is the same in Asian,Greek,Africain,Spanish,white, ect...So just enjoy what gods gift has given us as musicians,and respect all genres of music...Even if you don't care for a certine type  ....Like they say"Music colms the savage beast 
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#18867 - 06/12/05 04:35 PM
Re: The Definition of Music
[Re: Jake]
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I would personaly think that the definition for music is a nice peacful sound, and noise is a bunch or racket.
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#18868 - 06/16/05 11:55 PM
Re: The Definition of Music
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I'm taking music theory in college and the definition we were given a very broad definition for music. We said it's the art, the craft and the science of organizing sound and silence in the frameworkof time. George Bernard Shaw once said, " Music is the brandy of the damned!"
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#18870 - 09/05/05 04:35 PM
Re: The Definition of Music
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#18871 - 10/17/05 02:03 AM
Re: The Definition of Music
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Loc: Grand Prairie, TX
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We'll discuss and hopefully be that much closer to a precise definition.
Music doesn't need a definition. Music is music. You either love, live, and embrace it, or you don't. And this forum is full of people who believe that. I mean, why waste the time trying to find a scientific definition for music when you could be out making it?
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