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#161638 - 05/04/08 04:19 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: DixieDrummerGrl]
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Registered: 04/26/08
Loc: Alabama, United States
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I mostly prefer standing, but if the piece dictates, I'll sit down.
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#161646 - 05/04/08 06:09 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: AlabamaDrummer]
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Registered: 06/24/04
Loc: SoCal/Cleveland
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Definitely sitting. When you're standing, there's not really a guarantee that your hands are at a consistent height (because most people are taller than they need to be to play timpani, so they end up having to crouch or lean some). Also, with standing, there's the issue of pedalling the timpani mid-passage, or pedalling more than one drum at once. People that normally stand will sit when playing something like Bartok Concerto for Orchestra where you have to have both feet to tune, but to me, that doesn't make sense, because then you're likely to have an entirely different sound when seated than you would when standing. However, when I'm sitting I'm not usually putting my entire weight on the stool with my feet on whatever sort of footrest the stool has; most often I'm sitting far forward on the stool with my feet still on the floor, or my feet are resting on the pedals (of course, if you play balanced action this is a problem, but if you're on Dresden pedals it's not).
There are, of course, fine players that play both ways, but I personally prefer sitting.
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#162167 - 05/13/08 12:30 AM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: LafayetteSnare]
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Registered: 08/10/06
Loc: Priceville, Alabama
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sitting seems much easier to change pitch, but for those who switch instruments a lot during the concert season in high schools standing seems to be the first natural thing to do- although not as beneficial (IMO). I also think it's easier to sit for playing technique wise.
Edited by Colin (05/13/08 12:31 AM)
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#163006 - 05/24/08 11:12 AM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: Colin]
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Registered: 10/15/07
Loc: ankeny, IA
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I prefer to stand.
maybe it's just because I'm not used to sitting, but when I do, I always hit the rim. and it's easier for me to move around while standing.
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#163078 - 05/25/08 11:59 AM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: trapperkeeper]
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Registered: 04/24/08
Loc: Florida
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i think sitting is much easire because when you are standing you cant tune 2 timpani at once. also if you are a taller person it might be uncomfortable to be reaching down so far to play those long rolls.
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#164151 - 06/03/08 09:28 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: SnArE_4_LyFe]
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Registered: 05/04/08
Loc: Florida
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I vote standing. I like movement.
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#164222 - 06/04/08 10:59 AM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: SnareFlare]
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Registered: 12/22/07
Loc: florida
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I vote standing. I like movement. . yea thats exactly how i am.
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#166444 - 06/27/08 08:24 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: SnareFlare]
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Registered: 07/09/07
Loc: U.S
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I think stool for pedalling notes. No chair for intese fast passages
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#166822 - 07/02/08 11:36 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: jacoismyhero]
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Registered: 07/02/08
Loc: TX
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Sitting at the timpani is the preferred (and generally prescribed) method of playing the timpani. I have never encountered a single professional timpanist who stands while performing. When in high school, I always stood simply because there was no other option -- no stools! That seems to be a common problem with the majority of high schools.
When you sit to play the timpani, your body and hands remain in a central pivot, letting you arrange the timpani around you so that you will always hit the sweet spot on the head. It also allows for you to tune multiple drums at the same time.
As a teacher, what I have encountered most often is that students do not sit on the stool correctly. Imagine that the stool is more like a table top, and that you are leaning against the table. You are not actually sitting directly on top of the stool, but using it more for balance while keeping both feet on the floor. This allows you to use your feet as leverage to move your body around the drums, but also gives you the ability to change pitches quickly on multiple drums.
If you've never had to change two drums at the same time, just wait. Play enough music and you will come across this problem more often than not.
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#166888 - 07/03/08 06:03 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: dajhek]
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Registered: 05/12/03
Loc: St. Louis, MO
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Sitting at the timpani is the preferred (and generally prescribed) method of playing the timpani. I have never encountered a single professional timpanist who stands while performing. When in high school, I always stood simply because there was no other option -- no stools! That seems to be a common problem with the majority of high schools. Rick Holmes, Saul Goodman, Cloyd Duff, John Tafoya, Tim Adams. Those are the ones that popped in to my head. They all stand when they play. I used to study with Rick when I was younger and he's no a fan of sitting at all. He understands that it is sometimes necessary, but he'll only sit when he has long enough rests.
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#166914 - 07/03/08 10:21 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: drumcorpbc]
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Registered: 10/19/03
Loc: Boston, MA
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Tim Genis, principal of the Boston Symphony/Pops also stands. Todd Miller, principal of Pacific Symphony, sits.
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#166927 - 07/04/08 12:03 AM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: Cobybos]
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Registered: 07/02/08
Loc: TX
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It really comes down to personal preference. I sit at the timpani for all of the reasons that I listed above. That is how I was taught and how I prefer. If you are comfortable standing and playing, have at it. If you want to try sitting, go ahead. The vast majority of the percussionists that I have dealt with prefer to sit, but try out both ways and find out what is most comfortable for you.
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#168846 - 08/05/08 01:06 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: SnareFlare]
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Registered: 08/03/08
Loc: TN
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To me, it really doesn't matter. As long as the stool is high enough to were it doesnt effect the sound, then Im good with sitting, because you can change multiple pitches at once.
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#169765 - 08/16/08 01:13 AM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: Percussionisto]
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Registered: 03/27/03
Loc: Annapolis, Maryland
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As a former two-year timpanist for my high school marching band, orchestra, concert band and percussion ensembles, I am a strong advocate for the timpanist to stand and remaining standing during their performances.
Granted, I am only 5'7" and do not have the same problems of playing as some of my taller colleagues, but I feel as though the timpanist must demonstrate a presence in the percussion section and that can only be accomplished by standing.
The three-pedal tunings and the mid-piece movements have been and should continue be done standing--as long as the player puts the effort into it, it can be done!
I've seen too many high school marching bands (sadly including my former one) turn to this sitting-down position non-sense for people that are shorter than I am. And of course, they always have the excuse of "oh, it's the tunings" and "it's the new modern technique".
Well to make it very clear, when was the last time anyone ever heard of a sitting timpanist being a timpani legend on a name-by name basis in the concert, orchestra and marching band fields?
NONE!
End of that, ladies and gentlemen.
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#169918 - 08/18/08 02:07 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: SnareFlare]
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Registered: 08/17/08
Loc: Northern Virginia
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I played timpani last year and i stood up but this year our timpani player is going to be seated.
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#171428 - 09/15/08 03:11 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: JRudnik]
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Registered: 06/30/08
Loc: Stamford, CT
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I've only played timpani for 1 song during concert band, I didn't even know sitting was an option. Is the player's chair on a raised platform or something when they're seated? I know when I sat down when I wasn't playing, the things were about chest level, way to high to play comfortably.
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#171529 - 09/17/08 06:34 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: bltsponge]
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Registered: 01/22/06
Loc: Sanibel, FL
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I've only played timpani for 1 song during concert band, I didn't even know sitting was an option. Is the player's chair on a raised platform or something when they're seated? I know when I sat down when I wasn't playing, the things were about chest level, way to high to play comfortably. Usually a stool, steal one from the orchestra when they're not looking.
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#171658 - 09/21/08 11:03 AM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: SnareFlare]
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Registered: 02/24/03
Loc: Jackson, Mississippi
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Certainly sitting, there's no doubt about it. You may need a very tall stool, mine is a target swivel bar stool that ran me about 60 bucks, before that I used a pork pie throne jacked all the way up and I decided based on my technique that I needed a higher stool. But often times you need to be ready to use both of your feet, there are often passages that involve tuning more than one drum very quickly. Remember, sitting is part of your overall technique.
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#171661 - 09/21/08 01:41 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: spydrummer]
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Registered: 06/24/04
Loc: SoCal/Cleveland
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I've seen too many high school marching bands (sadly including my former one) turn to this sitting-down position non-sense for people that are shorter than I am. And of course, they always have the excuse of "oh, it's the tunings" and "it's the new modern technique". Umm, have you ever played Bartok Concerto for Orchestra or any of his Piano Concerti or his second violin concerto, or Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celeste? Or Barber's Medea's Dance of Vengeance? Parts like those are NOT possible standing. Every timpanist who claims to be a "standing timpanist" (ie. Tim Genis of the Boston Symphony) sits while playing those parts. Well to make it very clear, when was the last time anyone ever heard of a sitting timpanist being a timpani legend on a name-by name basis in the concert, orchestra and marching band fields? Cloyd Duff (former Cleveland Orchestra). Paul Yancich (Cleveland Orchestra). Mark Yancich (Atlanta Symphony). Don Liuzzi (Philadelphia Orchestra). Oh, and all the other timpanists who stand normally but sit for the tuning passages (all the students of the Saul Goodman lineage).
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#171820 - 09/23/08 10:09 PM
Re: Timpani - Standing or Seated?
[Re: RhythmSong]
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Registered: 10/03/06
Loc: TX
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I've seen too many high school marching bands (sadly including my former one) turn to this sitting-down position non-sense for people that are shorter than I am. And of course, they always have the excuse of "oh, it's the tunings" and "it's the new modern technique". Umm, have you ever played Bartok Concerto for Orchestra or any of his Piano Concerti or his second violin concerto, or Music for Strings, Percussion, and Celeste? Or Barber's Medea's Dance of Vengeance? Parts like those are NOT possible standing. Every timpanist who claims to be a "standing timpanist" (ie. Tim Genis of the Boston Symphony) sits while playing those parts. Well to make it very clear, when was the last time anyone ever heard of a sitting timpanist being a timpani legend on a name-by name basis in the concert, orchestra and marching band fields? Cloyd Duff (former Cleveland Orchestra). Paul Yancich (Cleveland Orchestra). Mark Yancich (Atlanta Symphony). Don Liuzzi (Philadelphia Orchestra). Oh, and all the other timpanists who stand normally but sit for the tuning passages (all the students of the Saul Goodman lineage). pwned. I feel more comfortable standing, but that's because my junior school band director made me stand... It's whatever makes you more comfortable. The more comfortable you are, the better you are likely to play.
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