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#159835 - 03/29/08 09:30 AM Balancing the Line
CarrollDrummer Offline


Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: USA
Ok, i've searched for a while and haven't found anything pertaining to my situation. My line is going to have 7 people on it next year. So my question is: what is the best balanced line for 7 people? thanks for the help.
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#159836 - 03/29/08 01:08 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: CarrollDrummer]
Tetsuo Offline


Registered: 02/10/06
Loc: Swanton, Ohio
What my HS line did was field 1 tenor, 2 snares, and 4 bass drums. There are any number of possible combinations, just depends on what the BD wants. I've seen schools whose entire Drumline was all snares with toms mounted on them before.
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#159837 - 03/29/08 01:09 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: CarrollDrummer]
CrashCrimson Offline


Registered: 11/21/07
Loc: Southeastern Region.
That's actually bigger than my line from last year; what my percussion instructor always said was it starts from the bottom up.

Four basses, two snares, one quad.

Tenors are easily the most distinguishable, and any one tenor player can outplay the entire band should they play loud enough, so they do not require too much worry.

Snares keep the tempo (which is why it's best to have more than one, in case you have a tempo jocky with enough chops to make snare, who would otherwise rush tempo) but they are hard to keep clean, which is why two or three is the preferable number for a small line.

Basses are the most important to have manned (not necessarily the most important drum) because you can't have any kind of bass splits without a bass line. Three is the minimum number of basses that I've ever seen a small band/line with, including my own, but because you have one more than we did last year, I'd suggest putting that extra person on bass.

'Cause when it comes down to it, tenors are rad, snares are awesome, but a sweet bass split is what really catches a judge's attention.
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#159838 - 03/29/08 01:40 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: CrashCrimson]
darfin Offline


Registered: 11/19/07
Loc: Florida
I agree with Tetsuo. As a matter of fact, that's almost the perfect balance. Should you have had 6 you should probably have been more worried.

This year we had 2 Snare, 1 Quad, and 5 Basses. Sounded perfect to me.
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#159839 - 03/29/08 02:22 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: darfin]
JacketTenor3 Offline


Registered: 09/26/07
Loc: Rammer Jammer Alabamer
wow we had that exact size last season,

we had 2 snare, 1 tenors, 3 bass, 1 cymbal
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#159840 - 03/29/08 02:42 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: CrashCrimson]
CarrollDrummer Offline


Registered: 12/17/07
Loc: USA
Quote:

That's actually bigger than my line from last year; what my percussion instructor always said was it starts from the bottom up.

Four basses, two snares, one quad.

Tenors are easily the most distinguishable, and any one tenor player can outplay the entire band should they play loud enough, so they do not require too much worry.

Snares keep the tempo (which is why it's best to have more than one, in case you have a tempo jocky with enough chops to make snare, who would otherwise rush tempo) but they are hard to keep clean, which is why two or three is the preferable number for a small line.

Basses are the most important to have manned (not necessarily the most important drum) because you can't have any kind of bass splits without a bass line. Three is the minimum number of basses that I've ever seen a small band/line with, including my own, but because you have one more than we did last year, I'd suggest putting that extra person on bass.

'Cause when it comes down to it, tenors are rad, snares are awesome, but a sweet bass split is what really catches a judge's attention.




I actually like this suggestion very much. Thanks!
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#159841 - 03/30/08 12:21 AM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: CarrollDrummer]
DrumerKruse Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: Colorado
i would go with 4 bass and three snenors
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#159842 - 03/30/08 01:51 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: DrumerKruse]
9Volt Offline


Registered: 02/12/08
Loc: OH-IO
Depends, If your like our band (Show), Theirs no real need to have the most kids on bass, As they play unison

So if your a show band, with 7 people, I would probably go with
3 basses, 2(3) snares, 1 tenor, and a cymbal, or you can move the cymbal player to snare/tenor, If he were to move to tenor though, you would have to play VERY quiet

Other then that, for a corp band with bass splits, the 4 bass, 2 snares, 1 tenor is probably teh smartest
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#159843 - 03/31/08 10:51 AM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: 9Volt]
akeith5913 Offline


Registered: 07/10/07
Loc: Northbrook, IL
7 players = 7 tenors.

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#159844 - 03/31/08 12:39 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: akeith5913]
dredpir8roberts Offline


Registered: 10/23/07
Quote:

7 players = 7 tenors.




+1

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#159845 - 04/01/08 10:31 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: dredpir8roberts]
FroogleDoop Offline


Registered: 10/28/07
I can't even imagine having less than four snares, 2-3 tenors, five basses, and four cymbals. Mann. But, yeah, 7 players = 7 tenors.

I disagree, crash crimson, I definitely think that the bass drums keep the tempo. They carry the most. They might not have as much crack as a snare, but it would be REALLY hard for a band to play with a rogue bass drummer.

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#159846 - 04/02/08 07:21 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: FroogleDoop]
CrashCrimson Offline


Registered: 11/21/07
Loc: Southeastern Region.
It'd be really tough for a line to play with a rogue snare drummer.

;P
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#159847 - 04/02/08 08:21 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: CrashCrimson]
jacoismyhero Offline


Registered: 11/28/05
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA



She was a percussionist?
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#159848 - 04/04/08 10:47 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: jacoismyhero]
CrashCrimson Offline


Registered: 11/21/07
Loc: Southeastern Region.
...

Like I said.

It would be VERY difficult to play with a Rogue anyone on the drumline.

Concentration would = Epic Phail.
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#159849 - 04/06/08 06:10 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: CrashCrimson]
Chambana Offline


Registered: 08/20/07
In a similar topic, the high school I'm at currently is going to have a minimum of 4, maximum of 6 people in the drumline next year. What would you guys recommend for a line setup?

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#159850 - 04/06/08 07:44 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: Chambana]
JacketTenor3 Offline


Registered: 09/26/07
Loc: Rammer Jammer Alabamer
well, 6 people, 2 snare, 1 cymbal and 3 bass.. same as what we had last season.
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08-09 (Motown) Trombone
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#159851 - 04/06/08 08:10 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: Chambana]
SkyDog Offline


Registered: 12/29/05
Assuming you mean 4-6 people in the battery and not in the whole line, here are the possibilities in order of (my) preference:

6 players: two snares, one tenor, three basses
6 players: one snare, one tenor, four basses
5 players: one snare, one tenor, three basses
4 players: one snare, three basses

If you mean you've got 4-6 players total, or you have that many with a small pit, I'd consider scrapping the battery altogether, at least for portions of the show. Since they're not strapped to an instrument, pit players are more flexible. That flexibility can be used to create a fuller sound with some creative arranging.

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#159852 - 04/06/08 09:06 PM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: Chambana]
drumicide Offline


Registered: 02/26/08
Loc: CentralTX
Quote:

In a similar topic, the high school I'm at currently is going to have a minimum of 4, maximum of 6 people in the drumline next year. What would you guys recommend for a line setup?




I would recommend you recruit some people from other sections. =p

No seriously, people are generally interested in joining the coolness of drumline, and if you got someone started right around now they'd be in good shape to play on Bass drum, assuming they've already got a good sense of rhythm, which most of us band geeks do. It's how I got in to drumline. =P

And I'm not just saying that because a bigger line is always better, only do this so that you can have at least 7 people. 4 basses, 2 snares, and a tenor is really a very solid group and balanced group IMO, and anything less numbers-wise will really be a hassle.

Just my thoughts.

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#164798 - 06/12/08 01:45 AM Re: Balancing the Line [Re: DrumerKruse]
NightMusic Offline


Registered: 06/12/08
Loc: St. Augustine, Florida
Originally Posted By: DrumerKruse
i would go with 4 bass and three snenors


I'm not really a big fan of the snenor sound...

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