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#158253 - 02/15/08 08:00 PM Concert Band Forum
SFZ541 Online   sleepy


Registered: 01/22/06
Loc: Sanibel, FL
I know this is a drumline forum and all, but pretty much all of us are in concert band and have concert band dilemmas that don't really fall into any of the available categories, and they don't really fit in off-topic because they aren't really off topic. Could that happen?
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#158254 - 02/15/08 08:33 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: SFZ541]
Mike_L Offline


Registered: 01/27/06
Loc: Springfield Oregon, USA
Hmm...It seems like a reasonable suggestion. There shouldn't be anything wrong with a Concert Percussion forum and I think it actually may be useful. I am not in concer band myself, but I'm still gonna agree with you on this one.
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#158255 - 02/16/08 06:25 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: Mike_L]
drumholio Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/05/00
Loc: Tullahoma, TN
Ok, lets try this:

give some examples of concert band dilemmas...then we can decide how relevant they are to this site
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#158256 - 02/16/08 07:14 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: drumholio]
chstenors09 Offline


Registered: 05/13/06
Loc: Cabot, Arkansas
Improving buzz rolls, timpani technique, indoor mallet technique. Those are just a few things I could see people needing help on.

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#158257 - 02/16/08 07:32 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: chstenors09]
Tory Offline


Registered: 10/12/04
Loc: Florida, for now.
The main thing that I was thinking about was the proper technique of playing accessories & toys. Many people just smack a tambourine or hit the triangle anywhere and think it's done, when there are many different techniques in those two alone. And then the different pitches from both of those two instruments. Just the things that are easily overlooked and shouldn't be. They're also things that can transfer over to a pit position on the field. Win-win situation!
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#158258 - 02/16/08 09:12 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: Tory]
WCUPerc2012 Offline


Registered: 03/11/07
Loc: West Chester University
I agree with Tory. There's a lot of things that people don't know how to play or even know that it exists. For example, no one else in my school knew what a flexatone was, much less how to play one. Also, people could share experiences about substitute instruments for schools that are financially challenged (such as detuning a conga to make it sound like a log drum or putting a broken double bass string on a cymbal to make it a sizzle cymbal). There's plenty that could go on, as well as dilemmas, brand talk, technique, discussing repetoires or favorite composers. There's really endless possibilites.
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#158259 - 02/17/08 12:12 AM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: Tory]
kevin_fu Administrator Offline


Registered: 06/16/00
Loc: Southern MD
Quote:

They're also things that can transfer over to a pit position on the field. Win-win situation!




This is pretty much the reason why we tell people to post in the front ensemble forum anyways.

If they want to specify "concert band" in the thread title to get more concert oriented thought, so be it... Don't try to tell me that playing a guiro is any different in concert band than outdoors. Approach changes minimally for projecting sound outdoors, and usually that is intuitive as far as change of approach (play louder, raise up instrument to project towards the stands).
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#158260 - 02/21/08 06:13 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: WCUPerc2012]
Nex Offline


Registered: 08/08/03
Loc: Montgomery, AL
Quote:

I agree with Tory. There's a lot of things that people don't know how to play or even know that it exists. For example, no one else in my school knew what a flexatone was, much less how to play one. Also, people could share experiences about substitute instruments for schools that are financially challenged (such as detuning a conga to make it sound like a log drum or putting a broken double bass string on a cymbal to make it a sizzle cymbal). There's plenty that could go on, as well as dilemmas, brand talk, technique, discussing repetoires or favorite composers. There's really endless possibilites.




I tried starting a topic about people's favorite pit toys and alterations to existing instruments for new effects in the Composing/Arranging forums. I got all of maybe 5 responses. It's a good topic, but people really don't reply enough to warrant its own forum (from what I can tell).
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#167182 - 07/07/08 02:52 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: Nex]
DigitalDrummer Offline


Registered: 10/03/06
Loc: TX
I started a new topic suggesting a concert percussion forum without serching first (whoops) so I'll just revive this one.

To those who say that concert percussion can be classified as Pit, you're very mistaken. For starters, concert percussion not only implies percussion ensembles, but also classical music with an orchestra or wind ensemble. The approach, acoustics, and culture of concert percussion is quite different than that of the front ensemble.

My teacher for instance is the principal percussionist for the San Antonio Symphony, and he absolutely despises front ensemble playing because of how kids in marching band take what they learn on the field and try to apply it to concert percussion. They're two different things that should have two different forums.
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#167188 - 07/07/08 03:24 PM Re: Concert Band Forum [Re: DigitalDrummer]
Cobybos Offline


Registered: 10/19/03
Loc: Boston, MA
I don't think you will get very far on drumlines.org. There is a concert sub-forum on www.drumhard.com. while this forum does it's best to promote all facets of percussion, it is clearly intended to emphasize the marching idiom. There are some great discussions at the PAS forums. You'll get feedback from the greats like Neil Grover, Alan Abel and Ney Rosauro. If you are a serious student of the percussion idiom you should try and become a member of PAS.

Gabe
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