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#157163 - 01/23/08 04:40 PM Innovative Bass Mallets?
Mannineaux Offline


Registered: 03/16/07
Loc: Slidell, Louisiana
Does anyone have a problem with their Innovative mallet heads just falling off? Our drumline tried out the Innovative Percussion FBX bass mallets, and almost all of them are falling off. The bass line for the most part uses pretty good technique, and stuff. I'm just wondering what the problem might be as to why they keep comming off at random. We started using them at the begenning of the school year, they have been through rain and stuff, but so did the VF mallets we used before these, and we didn't have that problem.

Anyone have problems like this with these mallets?
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#157164 - 01/23/08 06:02 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: Mannineaux]
Tory Offline


Registered: 10/12/04
Loc: Florida, for now.
Quote:

they have been through rain and stuff,




Bingo.

Take better care of your equipment, including mallets.
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#157165 - 01/23/08 06:22 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: Tory]
DrumerKruse Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: Colorado
i think that VF mallets are the way to go but tory is right. keep beeter care of your stuff and you see the benefits. IP mallets should really be just fine, a lot of lines use them
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#157166 - 01/23/08 11:55 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: DrumerKruse]
Cheese Offline


Registered: 02/27/05
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I used IP FBX's all last summer and again this winter and none of us had that problem.

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#157167 - 03/25/08 09:35 AM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: Cheese]
TJCTopBass Offline


Registered: 03/23/08
i have been using these mallets for 5 years now. the fact is, they need to be replaced at least every year, due to normal wear and tare. when these mallets get left in the rain the heads get waterlogged and loose their hardness, and even begin to fall apart, which would def. cause them to fall off. another thing might be the screw in the head of the mallet might be too small, sometimes they use the screws for the 1s or 2s for the 4s or 5s, so that could be it too. but overall that is a great mallet, one of the best, if not the best.
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#157168 - 03/25/08 02:59 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: TJCTopBass]
BigLove Offline


Registered: 02/26/07
Loc: Houston, Texas
both my high school bassline and indy line use these mallets by the mass orders and have yet to have a problem with the beads just falling off.
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#162809 - 05/21/08 02:35 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: Mannineaux]
baseman_matt Offline


Registered: 05/16/08
Loc: AL
your drumline will probably have to do like ours did and use gorrila glue and screws in the top of the head of the mallet straight down into the wood. but then again we had pro-mark at that time..........promark usually hold up though ours were warrped

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#162837 - 05/21/08 08:28 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: baseman_matt]
drumcorpbc Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 05/12/03
Loc: St. Louis, MO
Originally Posted By: baseman_matt
your drumline will probably have to do like ours did and use gorrila glue and screws in the top of the head of the mallet straight down into the wood. but then again we had pro-mark at that time..........promark usually hold up though ours were warrped


Do you realize exactly how much you contradicted yourself?
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#162884 - 05/22/08 02:41 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: drumcorpbc]
baseman_matt Offline


Registered: 05/16/08
Loc: AL
" Do you realize exactly how much you contradicted yourself?"



***Greetings, I'm a noob to this message board and instead of taking the post of a moderator, I instead tried to yell at him. What's most impressive is that at no time did I add anything to the conversation since I was talking about Pro Mark mallets and this is a thread about Innovative Percussion mallets.***


Edited by drumcorpbc (05/22/08 06:24 PM)

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#168485 - 07/31/08 12:39 AM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: baseman_matt]
AlabamaDrummer Offline


Registered: 04/26/08
Loc: Alabama, United States
I use Innovatives and I have had a couple of mallets where the screw loosens and falls out, eventually leading to the head coming off, along with our bass six's mallet head pulling over the screw and falling off without the screw loosening(probably because of the wrong size screw as previously stated). If they do, use glue or a larger screw maybe? I usually just get new ones so I don't have to deal with the hassle.
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#168510 - 07/31/08 09:59 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: baseman_matt]
A7xDrummer27 Offline


Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
Originally Posted By: baseman_matt
" Do you realize exactly how much you contradicted yourself?"



***Greetings, I'm a noob to this message board and instead of taking the post of a moderator, I instead tried to yell at him. What's most impressive is that at no time did I add anything to the conversation since I was talking about Pro Mark mallets and this is a thread about Innovative Percussion mallets.***



burned


ive heard these mallets are ok durability and playing wise
anyone wanna compare them to VF mallets for me?
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#168515 - 07/31/08 10:21 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: A7xDrummer27]
scchsdrummer Online   content
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
Originally Posted By: TJCTopBass
i have been using these mallets for 5 years now. the fact is, they need to be replaced at least every year, due to normal wear and tare. when these mallets get left in the rain the heads get waterlogged and loose their hardness, and even begin to fall apart, which would def. cause them to fall off. another thing might be the screw in the head of the mallet might be too small, sometimes they use the screws for the 1s or 2s for the 4s or 5s, so that could be it too. but overall that is a great mallet, one of the best, if not the best.


i disagree my line uses IP and we use these mallets and we've been using the same pairs for 3 years now.
the ones before that had been used for a LONG time...a good 5 years or more. we actually still have these, and they're in pretty good shape.

as to the heads coming off we haven't had this problem.
however i believe the screws ,as the person i quoted stated, might be loosening causing this problem
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#168534 - 08/01/08 11:41 AM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: scchsdrummer]
A7xDrummer27 Offline


Registered: 06/19/08
Loc: Connecticut
Originally Posted By: scchsdrummer
i disagree my line uses IP and we use these mallets and we've been using the same pairs for 3 years now.
the ones before that had been used for a LONG time...a good 5 years or more. we actually still have these, and they're in pretty good shape.

as to the heads coming off we haven't had this problem.
however i believe the screws ,as the person i quoted stated, might be loosening causing this problem


omg you guys need new mallets
thats great that they hold up that long but you should get new mallets every year if not every season (fall to winter) otherwise you run the risk of dead mallets giving you really bad sound quality on the drum
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#168541 - 08/01/08 12:05 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: A7xDrummer27]
snarepaint Offline


Registered: 06/13/03
It is completely understood that many schools are underfunded, however using mallets for years at a time only speaks for product durability and nothing else.

Asking a student to buy a pair of 20-$25 mallets twice a year (don't forget the indoor crowd) is more than reasonable.

My students get one pair of whatever we're using and buy their own bricks after that.
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#168546 - 08/01/08 01:49 PM Re: Innovative Bass Mallets? [Re: snarepaint]
drumcorpbc Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 05/12/03
Loc: St. Louis, MO
My group gets all new mallets every year. I buy them during the summer and they get them after band camp. Basically, our sticks last from end of camp to end of camp. I've had to replace on bass mallet ever and that was because it broke.

I've been using IP top to bottom for the past 4 years and haven't had any problems.
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