I've seen videos of pat fitzgibbons or some other hotshot IE solo player and it looks like they're playing a straight clean singles/ double stroke roll, but are switching their sticks during the strokes...

Does anybody understand how this works at all?
An explanation would be nice, thanks.

I would imagine that there are more than two hits whith each hand when you toss the stick.

I've seen it where they go from trad, to match, to reverse trad, and then to mother grip, all while playing a double stroke roll. Crazyness!

This sort of thing is better taught visualy (how 'bout that?) than with words, so mabye someone can hook us up with a video tutorial.

Please, don't ever mention patrick fitz-****'s name again.

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i think ou110snare (sp on his id) posted a video for this. caus e i remember watching it. but, i'd hafta hunt it.

If you see his name, just look the other way and go to a different thread...

Taternuts, what do you have against Fitzgibbon? I don't see anything wrong with him or his playing.

Even though my chops aren't nearly as good as anyone at I&E, I tried an ultra-slow-motion version of what Kevin suggested. I think it might be a double stroke roll but you toss the stick after the second stroke, but there's probably something else behind it. Even at 60 bpm I was dropping sticks.

it took me a while to perfect this visual, but u jus have to start EXTREMELY slow and use the hand eye coordination as possible. When you can get fast singles, you'll be able to do double strokes.

You mean like what Queen does in BLAST?

They did post a link to it awhile back, and I have it in my favorites...one my computer. I'm not home right now, but I will post it tomorrow.

Here you go:

http://ohiodrumline.tripod.com/other/sticktoss.html

Queen actually does a paradiddle thing, but the basis is the same.

err i know a double stroke pattern

R R

L L

(toss right stick to left hand, hand left stick to right hand, left hand catches stick in match grip backwards, holding tip with but forward like backstick)

R R

Lbutt Lbutt (i like to add a 360 spin in the right hand during this)

(flip left hand back to traditional like 2nd move of an old school backstick)

R R

L L

toss right to left bla bla bla etc etc etc

One of the blast drummers, don't remember if it's queen or not, does that on the DVD. It helps when working it out to use singles and get that down at a good tempo before you start doing double strokes.

I'm sure there are about a million different stick juggle techniques. The best thing to do would be to trick somebody who knows a bunch into getting a digital camera and sharing them all with us in MPEG...but I don't see that happening anytime soon. [cough cough, somebody, please upload more stick juggle vids.] <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/thumbup.gif" alt="" />

You know Bob, you could have saved yourself the time of writing that out. You just described exactly what is done in me video, boyo, excluding the extra hit. <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/70411-wiggle.gif" alt="" />



It is Queen, and he does a paradiddle pattern, not just dbl strokes.

theres also a double pattern w/o paradiddles though....

That Queen plays in BLAST?

Hang on...Let me consult the DVD...watch my ice cream for me...


5 minutes later:

It is actually a paradiddle-diddle pattern...

I used to know a couple more stick juggling things (though not refined) and I do have access to the digital camera - the only problem is that I have no idea where the software is to use it! Besides, that was my best one, haha. <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />