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#156415 - 01/05/08 10:56 PM
Practicing for tenors
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
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Ok last year I got pushed over to cymbals. This year I was Bass 4, but the thing I really joined the line for was the tenors. This upcoming year we're adding a second tenor to the line. So I was wondering what some good ways to practice for the tenors since I don't physically have some at home? Our current tenor told me he practiced using five pillows in the layout of them. I've been doing this playing various exercises, and I plan on practicing for next year's show when we get the music, so that I can beat out the other dude trying out too. So I was wondering if anyone had any better ideas then what my dude had? or any good exercises u know w/e..help?
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Saint Clair County High School Drumline:
Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl
Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom) The Sound of Patriotism
8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals Earth Wind & Fire
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#156416 - 01/06/08 01:53 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: scchsdrummer]
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Registered: 12/29/05
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If you're serious about it, get a tenor practice pad and music to practice. Bill Bachman's "Quad Logic" book at the accompanying "Reefed Beats" DVD are great resources. Pillows don't simulate the surface of a drum well enough. If you want to be good on the drums, you'll need to practice on something that feels like the drums so you'll be able to transfer what you've worked on. If you don't have the dough to spend on a tenor pad (they are fairly expensive), here's one way to rig up a cheap alternative: Draw an accurately-sized tenor layout on a piece of plywood. Put latex surgical tubing or IP practice tips on the beads of a pair of sticks. Voilá! You've got a practice pad, but with the rubber on the sticks instead of the pad. In the meantime, don't let the lack of a tenor pad keep you from practicing. If you practice on a single pad or drum, the technique you're learning and reinforcing applies to tenors, too.
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#156418 - 01/07/08 04:28 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: akeith5913]
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Registered: 03/16/07
Loc: Slidell, Louisiana
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Get the HQ tenor practice pad with the paying areas. Just using pillows doesn't really teach playing areas or sweeping or things like that. Get on a tenor as often as you can, and then use a bad all other times.
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Slidell High Drumline Freshman 06' - Tenors Freshman 07' - Snare (Mardi Gras) Sophomore 07' - Snare (Asst. Captain) Sophomore 08' - Snare Captain(Mardi Gras) (Asst. Captain)
Fontainebleau High School Drumline Junior 08' - Snare Captain
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#156419 - 01/07/08 06:25 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: Mannineaux]
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
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ok yea thanx for those who have responded so far and thanx to those in the future. I've played on the schools practice pad during class as much as I can and in the occasional absence of our band director I go to the marching drum room and get the real ones out and play. I have this upcoming year's cadence down. Now that school has started back Im gonna try and make trips to the band room during spare time in my other classes if I can.
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Saint Clair County High School Drumline:
Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl
Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom) The Sound of Patriotism
8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals Earth Wind & Fire
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#156421 - 01/08/08 07:08 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: scchsdrummer]
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Registered: 01/22/06
Loc: Sanibel, FL
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ok yea thanx for those who have responded so far and thanx to those in the future. I've played on the schools practice pad during class as much as I can and in the occasional absence of our band director I go to the marching drum room and get the real ones out and play. I have this upcoming year's cadence down. Now that school has started back Im gonna try and make trips to the band room during spare time in my other classes if I can.
If your school's pads aren't in use it's a good idea to see if your BD will let you bring them home. The pillows will work for learning the drums but you won't really get much farther than that without a way to practice technique.
The thread in DIY where someone made their own tenor pad seems to have magically disappeared but I used that thread and for 50$ and an evening of work had a fully functional drum pad. I didn't have to wait for one to come out of backorder or spend 100+ dollars.
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#156423 - 01/14/08 10:17 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: SFZ541]
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Registered: 01/14/08
Loc: michigan
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definitely see if you can borrow the schools pad i dont suggest using pillows right now; theyre more for chop building, which you can worry about later also see if you can get lessons from someone who has tenor experience? i was in the exact same situation as you last year (cymbals => bass 4 => tenors) and i got lessons from one of our tenors who was graduating theyll definitely be able to give tips/exercises to help you get better
good luck
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frosh - cymbals sophomore - bass 4 junior - tenors senior - tenors
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#156424 - 01/15/08 07:02 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: asiantayshaun]
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
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yea our band director is hiring a instructor for the line so we found out today so that'll help a lil bit woo, but yea im going to try to borrow the school's pad.
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Saint Clair County High School Drumline:
Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl
Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom) The Sound of Patriotism
8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals Earth Wind & Fire
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#161408 - 04/30/08 07:08 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: scchsdrummer]
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
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welp tryouts were today but we our time was shortened cuz my director had to leave early due to family emergencies. so our instructor wasn't able to talk things over with my director and get the all clear on what he wants to do. however he did tell us that they're thinkin about 3 snares 4 basses and 2 tenors...possibly 2 cymbals 2 pit (or 4 depending on the cymbals)...anywayz...my instructor wouldn't tell us all what he was thinking but if we wanted to speak to him 1 on 1 that he would...
so i one of 3 who wanted to..did..and he told me that snugglebunny depended on whether we have two tenors or not but if we did most likely be our current tenor and myself...so my hard work paid off and i thank everyone who contributed.
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Saint Clair County High School Drumline:
Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl
Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom) The Sound of Patriotism
8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals Earth Wind & Fire
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#167641 - 07/14/08 12:17 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: scchsdrummer]
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Registered: 07/10/08
Loc: San Diego, California
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I'm embarrased to admit it but i once used cardboard to simulate a set of tenors. i found a good sized piece and found the measuments of my schools set and using tape, i made the outlines on each drum, being very careful to make the measurements correct. but the problem with cardboard is the lack of rebound.
of course if you know you will be on tenors next year, totally get a heavy hitter pad. and quad logic. good luck
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Grossmont High School
Freshman Year: (07-08) "Welcome To The Show"- Marimba "Opeth in Wonderland"- 2nd Bass
Sophomore Year: (08-09) "Jekyll & Hyde"- Tenors
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#167662 - 07/14/08 02:01 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: BranRob]
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Registered: 01/03/08
Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
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of course if you know you will be on tenors next year, totally get a heavy hitter pad. and quad logic. good luck
>.< i totally forgot about this thing haha. but yea i got heavy hitter about 3 weeks ago. and how bored did u get for hte cardboard idea? just curious
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Saint Clair County High School Drumline:
Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl
Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom) The Sound of Patriotism
8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals Earth Wind & Fire
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#168559 - 08/01/08 04:49 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: scchsdrummer]
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Registered: 07/10/08
Loc: San Diego, California
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haha i did it mainly for something to do. it did work a bit but i never used it haha
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Grossmont High School
Freshman Year: (07-08) "Welcome To The Show"- Marimba "Opeth in Wonderland"- 2nd Bass
Sophomore Year: (08-09) "Jekyll & Hyde"- Tenors
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#168782 - 08/05/08 01:57 AM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: scchsdrummer]
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Registered: 08/13/07
Loc: TX
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u should start off getting clean on one practice pad and move on from there. work on stuff like 8 on a hand diddle exercises keeping stick control and appearance in mind. After you feel confident with that, you should start practicing on tenor-like pads.
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#169162 - 08/08/08 01:07 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: xp4nd00bi3x]
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Registered: 01/08/06
Loc: Billerica MA
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Playing areas are directly linked to sound quality so as long as you're in the proper playing areas, you're half-way to quad proficiency. Also your overall technique has to be spot on. Like markhan91 says, you should be able to do every excercise in the Quad Logic book on one drum/pad. This relates to Bill Bachman's theory of X and Y axes. Get your Y axis down (heights mainly) and X axis you should be able to adapt to easily.
I would practice double strokes, single strokes, 8 on a Hand, Double Triple Beat, ANY accent-tap excercise you can get your hands on, flams (accent, tap, and grace heights), and double stops. Double stops on quads are important. Don't get them mixed up with flams! I used to have that bad habit.
Good luck
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BMHS Freshman 07-08-Pit & Tenors
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#169685 - 08/14/08 06:30 PM
Re: Practicing for tenors
[Re: dat_230]
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Loc: Odenville, Alabama USA
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yea. i know my areas and stuff. i got the music down pat. scrapes are sort of a challenge at the tempo we're going but not too much of a challange. Thats for me though my fellow tenor player has problems with them. However, im sure he'll get them down. He's a good player. Also out of everyone on the line, he's like 2'nd in the rankings of who practices the most. 1'st being me  .
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Saint Clair County High School Drumline:
Sophmore '08 - '09 Tenors Pirates of the Caribbean The Curse of the Black Pearl
Freshman '07 - '08 Bass 4 (bottom) The Sound of Patriotism
8th Grade '06 - '07 Cymbals Earth Wind & Fire
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