At our first competition at OU The last band (Bevercreak i think) didn't have a snare line or a tenor line

they had a tesnare line lol
the 3rd drum was a snare...

it was cool and all...but what's the point?

Kinda hard to say without seeing them or knowing what the deal was. Maybe they thought that marching "snenors" was the best way to make use of the hands in the line, or maybe they thought it fit the show -- the parts could've been arranged to be sorta similar to a drum set without bass. Maybe they just thought it was a cool gimmick.

well i mean...they played like really cool tenor licks...then switched to snare

there were like 4 of em...

they played it all in unison and perfectly
it was pretty cool...but why not just have two on a snare and 2 on a tenor?

i just thought it was strange

There's two old threads on here about this already.

This one and this one.

First one talks about Beaver Creek too. It's probably to cut down on the amount of members or to have more of a drumset set up.

Very cool. I'd love to try those!

Also, shows how creative a school can be when they've got too much money -- a *little* bone of contention in Ohio. :-)

No, really...check out their web site http://www.beavercreek.k12.oh.us/bhs/bandweb/

Good grief! I wish my high school could've done some of this stuff!

Gah!!! I just looked at their 'fees' for band on that web site -- there's no frickin' way I could've been in their band! Totaled up, it's over $1000 a year for a freshman, $700+ for a returning memeber! I get the idea that Beavercreek ain't a poor district.

they call them squints.

-Justin

I'm assuming those are Dynasty wedges?

Pretty creative way to have a balanced line, if you ask me. I wish we had the money to do stuff like that.

I was on the drumline this past season that just ended at Beavercreek High as a cymbal player and yes they are quints with a snare on them. We don't call them squints or snenors, just quints. Apparently we are the only band that uses that set up. In response to Panasonic, yes they are Dynasty wedges. I guess our director just likes the way that they are set up, I'm pretty sure he's been using them for a long while now.

Hey whats up? I'm in the Beavercreek marching band, and I play those things you call snenors. It's pretty different but yet it's totally awesome at the same time. I'm 5''2 and weigh about 97 pounds so...it's gets pretty intense for me. I think my all time favorite memory is comming off the feild at The Northmont band premire to these guys yelling " Snenors, Snenors, snenors..." good times...Whoever came up with that word gets my vote for being awesome! In responce to Drums11 our fees might look horrible but we have 2 huge fund raisers that go into our own band funds.
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This past weekend I finally got World Gone Mad's (senior corps) snare / tenor combos built. We use Yamaha quads with XL rails, and mounted a 10" Pearl firecracker snare as the quint. Works just fine - whole set seems to be stable, and all is well.

Mike

in either 2002 or 2003 the cavaliers had snare units mounted in their drum 3. It just gives a different sound. They did that with bass 1 too.

But ive never heard of this, it sounds like a sweet concept. Only downfall would be if you have a large band and the 4 quint players could balance with the rest of the ensemble. But still a cool idea

Wha wha WHAT?:o THEY REALLY DID? That's a whole different story o.O

Cavies did this in '92 on bass 1 and 2. It was just for certain effect during a small part of the drum solo. Essentially, it was rigged so you turn a small screw and the snares would lay against the inside of the head. Real easy to turn on and off.

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I'm not sure what you think is false, but I have seen those cavies drums up close.. it was the 02, 03.. they had snares in the bottom two drums.. then turned them on like a snare muffler.

well then they served absolutely no purpose. if can see or hear them in ANY of the lot vids then how would someone hear them on the field? therefore...your story is complete bull.

Friendly suggestion-

Tread lightly if you're going to challenge a moderator's knowledge, especially if it's someone who pays as much attention to the activity as multi-thomm does.

Just because you can't see or hear stuff doesn't mean it wasn't there. DVD's often don't capture the little nuances in shows that make the live performances so amazing.

I have a lawn mower in my garage that hasn't worked in two years, therefore, it serves no purpose. According to your rationalization, the mower does not exist even though I see it every day.

Listen, I don't think Kuhn and his guys would have done anything with their lines unless it served some sort of purpose. As stated earlier, just because you didn't hear it or see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Amen brotha!!

First just because you can't hear it on youtube doesn't mean its bull. They do have snares. just so i am clear I have seen them with my own eyes they do exsists.

Second, they didnt use them the whole show. it was an "effect". it is possible you didn't see that part on the lot video.

Third, its a frickin video. nothing sounds the same as it does in person. it is possible the mic on the video did not pic up on the snare sound.


oh ya btw take the advice. because you are on you way to ban town, friend. you don't want a mod dogging you.

Well, that was fun.

Can we get back on topic now?

lhsdrummer91, consider this your first, last, and only warning.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

So, we have derived that Cavies had some snares attachments on the basses in '92 and on the tenors somewhere around '02-'03. I think I recall Star having some snares rigged onto their tenors around '91. Any of you old guys remember that or did I just dream that up?

Nope, you're right. Star used a 10" "scottie" snare, but I think it was in the '88/'89 shows. It was used instead of a spock. I'm pretty sure that there's a picture on one of the other threads about this topic.

Also, in the late 90's/early 00's Southwind's quadline had MTS units in either drum 3 or 4...can't remember which. I'm guessing that's what Cavaliers did in '02/03? A little different than the ghetto-rigged version they used in '93 with the snare feet!

Poly you are very right. I looked through all of the pages of the other topics and saw that pic. I also came across a pic of what I think was in a wgi show where they had a snare in the middle surrounded by 2 toms, I didn't see what size they were. could anybody tell me who these people are?

my high school is doing the snare attached to tenor thing this year. We have them set up so that the snare is where the spock should be. We have 6 snenor players and 5 basses. 3 of the snares are 10" Yamaha stage customs and three of them are Pearl firecrackers. We would have used all Yamaha stage customs but apparently they were discontinued. We had to modify the brace part of the tenor that connects to the carrier so that we could get the drums to fit. We are having troubles getting a clean snare sound on the snares but i think it is something we can fix if we mess around with the tuning. The only down side is that the drums dont fold up so after a long time, they really start to kill you shoulders. The reason we chose to go with the snenors is because we dont really have enough solid players to complete a 5 person snare line and 3 person tenor line since we lost a lot of people last year and we thought it would be a different to have a 6 person snenor line in which we can have snare and tenor parts. At least thats why i think we chose to go in that direction.

A couple things to consider with your snare sound, You wont get that articulate snare sound like a marching snare, due to different heads, snare strands, depth of the shell.

Tunning will definitely will help, but i would also put a patch on the bottom head, i would even go so far as to add a top snares to the drum. its not all that hard to do.

I know BD did that one year in the 90's. I don't remember the show, though.

They didn't exactly have a snare attached persay- basically what they did is they attached the snares and a switch to the 14" drum head- allowing them to turn the snares on when needed yet still have a drum 4 when the snares were off- and it was in 1996 that BD did that

Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Also, I think they had a custom swizzle tenor stick that year too. I think one side was (and I'm sorry if I butcher this) a Omar Hakim bead, while the other side was the usual vega bead. they would use the O.H. bead when playing the Snare thing, and use the vega for normal playing.

Thats a really cool idea. But i cant see it sounding as good as a whole line of snares and a whole line of tenors.