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#153630 - 10/27/07 08:30 AM Breaking Bass Mallets
daspyda Offline


Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: Auburndale , florida
Yesterday marching in the halls on the way to the pep rally i broke my bass 4 mallet. split it in half. the great thing was that they were brand new sticks i had baught the day before.My drum instructor and all the drumline is holy crap thats crazy chops. orr that mallet jsut sucked. im saying the chops . How many others break their mallets
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#153631 - 10/27/07 08:49 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: daspyda]
dredpir8roberts Offline


Registered: 10/23/07
It's been a long time since I played bass, but as I recall the thing that really breaks bass mallets is overzealous rim clicks. That tends to break the mallet and the rim (unless there's a rim guard). Take it easy on the rim clicks and bass mallets last a long long time. Or until you use them in the rain and the felt heads get all swollen and weird looking.

If you broke a brand new mallet, either the mallet was bad or you did something dumb with it.

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#153632 - 10/27/07 12:28 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: dredpir8roberts]
WCUPerc2012 Offline


Registered: 03/11/07
Loc: West Chester University
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If you broke a brand new mallet, either the mallet was bad or you did something dumb with it.




I agree. The mallet must have been bad.
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#153633 - 10/27/07 10:45 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: WCUPerc2012]
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Registered: 10/07/06
Loc: Montgomery,Alabama
Bad mallet or bad technique.
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#153634 - 10/28/07 12:56 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: daspyda]
vhsTenor Offline


Registered: 02/22/07
Loc: Valencia, California
Yeah... the fourth bass drum in our line isn't what you'd call the sharpest tool in the shed. For a long time we had some really old crappy bass mallets the bassline was using, and this year the third bass drum's dad was awesome and he bought the whole bassline brand new mallets. Not even a week after receiving them, the fourth bass snaps 'em at a football game. We were ticked at him. That kid just plays too aggressively.

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#153635 - 10/28/07 10:52 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: vhsTenor]
daspyda Offline


Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: Auburndale , florida
im bass caption head,They were brand new vic firth corp masters. It probly was the stoopid stick clicks becuase our fight song is mostly clicks but i cant belive the broke soo easily
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#153636 - 10/28/07 01:36 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: daspyda]
basschick_sara Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Loc: Missouri CIty, Texas
at Yesterday's game, our 5th AND 6th basses both broke a mallet. Luckily it's the end of the season, so they're just using old ones.

We're sponsored by promark, so we use their bass mallets. They produce the best sound in my opinion, but the wood they're made out of is too soft. We've broken probably 4 or 5 mallets this season. I'd try Innovative. We were sponsored by them my freshman year when we had a different director, and their bass mallets are invincible. Our 6th bass doesn't know how to play any lower than 15 inches off the head, and he's only broken 1 pair. It's impressive how long they last.
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#153637 - 10/28/07 03:29 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: basschick_sara]
Nhsdrummer07 Offline


Registered: 06/05/04
Loc: Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Geesh... How hard are you guys playing bass? We've had the same pairs of mallets for the past 3 years. Lack of funding has cut down on our "all out" playing but still...It might just be me, and I think it is, but that seems like an awful lot of mallets to be broken in one year.
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#153638 - 10/28/07 04:17 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Nhsdrummer07]
daspyda Offline


Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: Auburndale , florida
ive broken two this year. the old ones the school has had for about 50 years. and the new ones. and our bass 3 broke one. its not our fault most songs we play in the stands have simple grooves and soo when evenever we play with the band we have tons of stick clicks
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#153639 - 10/29/07 08:16 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: daspyda]
Skittle Offline


Registered: 02/09/07
Most bigger bass drums do end up breaking mallets because the more weight on the end. I'm usually playing 1 or 2 but this year I played 4. I'm still in the process of breaking one of mine as our instructor is constantly have us retape our sticks. I'm just waiting for our combined half-time with the Jr. High.

Can you really hear rim clicks anyway? I mean how hard must you really hit it?

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#153640 - 10/29/07 01:19 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Skittle]
Mannineaux Offline


Registered: 03/16/07
Loc: Slidell, Louisiana
Our bass line broke a mallet in half only once. It really depends on how many rim clicks you so, and how hard you do them. I'm not sure what kind of mallets you use, but usually most brands are pretty sturdy.
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#153641 - 10/29/07 02:58 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Mannineaux]
Jessai Offline


Registered: 05/08/06
Loc: Hillbilly Country, USA
Our line is using Innovatives, and the only way any mallets have broken is I believe the heads popping off of our first bass's mallets once or twice. Other than that, the things are pretty tough. We do have rim savers, but we also double-wrap the tape for a few inches below the head of the mallet to protect it more on the rim clicks. Don't know if anyone does that, but it's worth a shot to help the sticks live longer. I normally re-tape my show mallets before every game, but the practice mallets can go two or three weeks and not take too much wear until I retape them again.

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#153642 - 10/29/07 06:15 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Jessai]
daspyda Offline


Registered: 09/12/07
Loc: Auburndale , florida
Well we dont have a marching drumline for the show its only in the stands and pep rallys but. soo our director really doesnt care at the moment what we use. i jsut baught vic firths corp masters well becuase thats the only bass mallets the stores around here have
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#153643 - 10/30/07 09:44 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: daspyda]
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Registered: 10/17/07
Loc: At the bottom of hell with the...
I've only broke two pair, a pair of cheap ones made from like partical board or something I had broke because I had a habbit of doing really hard rim clicks. The other pair I broke were made of steel and I'm not sure what happened to them, I was actually playing fairly soft on the head of the drum and it snapped in half and pierced the old Remo head we had on there.

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#153644 - 10/30/07 10:46 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: SuicidalBassDrum]
DRUMS11 Offline


Registered: 11/01/06
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
I don't think I've ever seen a non-defective bass mallet shaft break from normal playing -- if it survived the first 1/2 hour or so of playing, the first thing that died was the felt ball.

Of course, my alma mater and the other high schools near my home town weren't, and still aren't, really into bass drum rim clicks.
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#153645 - 10/30/07 01:09 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Jessai]
Mannineaux Offline


Registered: 03/16/07
Loc: Slidell, Louisiana
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Our line is using Innovatives, and the only way any mallets have broken is I believe the heads popping off of our first bass's mallets once or twice. Other than that, the things are pretty tough. We do have rim savers, but we also double-wrap the tape for a few inches below the head of the mallet to protect it more on the rim clicks. Don't know if anyone does that, but it's worth a shot to help the sticks live longer. I normally re-tape my show mallets before every game, but the practice mallets can go two or three weeks and not take too much wear until I retape them again.




We use the same things and have the same problems, we taped them, and the tape is staying on relatively well becasue our bass ilne doesn't smack the rims too often, but we do need to get rim guards... But anywho. The mallet eads popped off on our bass 2 mallets, and they're almost brand new mallets. So it must be a flaw with how Innovative makes them, unless our bass line is throwing them around like a football, They used to do that, but i havent seen them do it in a while.
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#153646 - 11/02/07 06:10 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Mannineaux]
Skittle Offline


Registered: 02/09/07
Quote:

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Our line is using Innovatives, and the only way any mallets have broken is I believe the heads popping off of our first bass's mallets once or twice. Other than that, the things are pretty tough. We do have rim savers, but we also double-wrap the tape for a few inches below the head of the mallet to protect it more on the rim clicks. Don't know if anyone does that, but it's worth a shot to help the sticks live longer. I normally re-tape my show mallets before every game, but the practice mallets can go two or three weeks and not take too much wear until I retape them again.




We use the same things and have the same problems, we taped them, and the tape is staying on relatively well becasue our bass ilne doesn't smack the rims too often, but we do need to get rim guards... But anywho. The mallet eads popped off on our bass 2 mallets, and they're almost brand new mallets. So it must be a flaw with how Innovative makes them, unless our bass line is throwing them around like a football, They used to do that, but i havent seen them do it in a while.




Now see, my line used to use Innovative and we never had problems except for the occasional stick break from never retaping and hitting way to hard. I mean, who's really going to hear a rim click anyway. This year we switched to Vic Firth and our bass 1 mallet heads popped off. Bass 5 broke two mallets, and I, bass 4, broke 1 in the stands and it flew into the endzone of the field.

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#153647 - 11/02/07 06:43 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Skittle]
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I've only ever broken seen one bass mallet broken in my few years of marching percussion. It was my mallet, and when I got it at the beginning of the season it was already pretty splintered (we weren't well funded, and most of our funding was going to the band trip to Hawaii) so I used that one. I broke it on the rim (with a rim guard) during the cadence at a football game. It kinda sucked playing the rest of the cadence with one mallet, but it worked out well enough. The only real problem I had was the 32nd note splits in the bass solo, so I just played a one-handed triple stroke. I played 2nd bass, if that has any relevance.

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#153648 - 11/11/07 06:40 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: ]
sb3drummer Offline


Registered: 10/22/07
Loc: VA
During one practice the 5th bass hit a rimshot and the head of the mallet flew off and almost hit a tenor in the head lol

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#153649 - 11/12/07 12:08 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: sb3drummer]
basschick_sara Offline


Registered: 06/08/06
Loc: Missouri CIty, Texas
Last night was our last football game, so the guys went a little crazy and broke two pairs. I gave mine to our bottom bass, and ended up having to play with the 2nd bass mallets. The top three all had to play with tenor felts.

They were all promark sticks, by the way. Promark's wood just doesn't hold up well.
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#153650 - 11/16/07 11:03 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: basschick_sara]
Duall Offline


Registered: 11/05/07
Loc: Florida
The day before our talent show last year (we play in it ever year), we were practicing with the bases on the ground. I had some form of metal-shaft sticks with heads that were seriously 4 inches in diameter. After an accent part in one of our cadences, I noticed one of my mallets now longer had a head. I turned around and out band director was stariung angrily through the pane of broken glass on his office door. Oops. I had to play with african mallets that night, actually, and they worked wonders.
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#153651 - 11/18/07 01:15 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Duall]
basschick77 Offline


Registered: 10/04/07
Loc: MO
One time at a home football game, one of the bass drummers hit the drum hard enough that the head of the mallet flew off. It ended up way up in the stands (we were sitting in the stands playing) in the clairinet section. It was pretty funny.

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#153652 - 11/29/07 03:15 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Skittle]
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Registered: 11/29/07
im not sure anyone in our line has ever broken a mallet by just playing...
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#153653 - 12/06/07 11:22 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: sourcarpetmold]
SkyhawkDrummer Offline


Registered: 11/06/07
Loc: SoCal
Nope no one in our line has broken mallets and for you people out there saying whats the point of rim clicks,trust me you could hear them.Very Clearly.
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#153654 - 12/08/07 07:08 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: basschick_sara]
Mightymouse Offline


Registered: 05/08/07
I have to admit its some what a tradition in are drumline to break a stick or a malet before you graduate, i know its kinda of stupied but its true. also supposely its good luck to break one the day before a competition.... dont ask why, i have no idea!!! I've only broken one malet the two years I've been playing, and it was an pratice stick!! what happend was during the pratice before the competition we were doing our big solo part in the show up fron, and i started the 4 measures of rim clicks, i noticed that I broke my right stick in half, not thinking I threw it and our director caught it and threw it back at me while i was crab steping to back feild and told me to use the other end...it worked!! I was more supprised that I actually caught it in mide air crabbing to back feild, then actually breaking the stick!!!! Pluse that night we got best percussion in our class and 3rd best percussion over all!!! while were on the subject of breaking sticks there a bass in the line who seems to break a pair of mallets every week, his my best friend but his stupied and one of the worse players in the line, but still he beats the stuffing out of the drum and the rims,and always at the wrong time. Which gives ua a problem of never having extra sticks, hence now we have to buy our sticks. well I'm done BUY!!!!

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#153655 - 12/09/07 08:29 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Mightymouse]
WRTenor Offline


Registered: 12/01/07
Just about everyone on our bassline last year popped a head off at least one mallet, kinda strange, that hasn't happened much before then or after then, even when those members play bass again.
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#153656 - 12/09/07 09:07 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: WRTenor]
WCUPerc2012 Offline


Registered: 03/11/07
Loc: West Chester University
We use innovatives so we don't usually have a problem with mallets breaking, and the only time one broke was on tour in New Mexico we were using really old mallets cause it was supposed to rain that day and we didn't want to mess up our practice mallets any more. And Bass 3's mallets weren't even taped, so about 3/4 of the way through the day, he broke his mallet after the latin section of the show (he was purposely hitting harder than he should have to break it on purpose). But the proper technique for rim clicks is always 3" heights. Just look at the cadets 2003 drum solo, no matter what height you hit it at, you're still going to hear it throughout the whole stadium.
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#153657 - 12/13/07 08:39 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Skittle]
antis0ciol Offline


Registered: 01/31/07
Loc: New Hampshire
Oh wow.
We've had the same mallets for years and years and years.
Actually one of the mallets I used this past season was swelled from a junior dropping it in a puddle his freshman year.
The instructors always caustion us not to hit the rim clicks too hard so they don't break.
Our school's kind of ghetto in the music department.
Actually, a lot of the mallets are splintering at the top part from rim clicks and being retaped so much.
They'll probably break soon.

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#153658 - 12/15/07 10:05 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Skittle]
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Registered: 11/21/07
not only do big bass drummers break mallets, but they also break more drumheads that the top basses do

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#153659 - 01/13/08 02:20 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: UNKNOWN]
Zep Offline
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Registered: 01/13/08
ive broken a bass head b4 but not a mallet. I dont think u could do it by just hitting the head, although maybe on a rim

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#153660 - 01/13/08 03:28 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Zep]
BassYourFassOff Offline


Registered: 11/09/07
Loc: My Secret Lair, Classified, Th...
In a parade last year, I actually snapped a pair of Corpmaster mallets almost perfectly in half.

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#153661 - 03/09/08 10:07 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: basschick_sara]
snarez9209 Offline


Registered: 03/05/08
Loc: Wallaceton, PA
Hahah, our bass line uses the old Silver Fox Qwiksilver bass mallets. Some of the older bass 4 mallets are bent at about a 170 degree angle but we haven't had any breaks yet. Unfortunately. =P
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#160230 - 04/10/08 09:48 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: dredpir8roberts]
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Registered: 09/07/07
I remember last year twards the end of the season my mallet started to get chips in it. At one of our last rehearsals of the year i was smacking my rim clicks as hard as i could and it wouldnt break. haha

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#161188 - 04/26/08 05:17 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Corona]
AlabamaDrummer Offline


Registered: 04/26/08
Loc: Alabama, United States
I saw a college line that uses the metal Pearl rim-savers, and they hit the saver with the head of the mallet instead of the shaft. It really lengthens the life since the head is made to be hit. The only peoblem is that you have to loosen the rim-saver's screws a tad to get a good click, and that the players have to be consistent enough to hit the saver with the head of the mallet every time. Other than that I think it's a great idea.
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#161196 - 04/26/08 07:15 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: AlabamaDrummer]
TJCTopBass Offline


Registered: 03/23/08
i broke a ip fbx-1 in the lot at wgi world championships prelims, there arnt any rim clicks in the show, and i had only had the sticks for like 4 weeks, with practice 3 times a week for 3 hours. it just basicly exploded, wood splinters flew everywhere, it was pretty neat, good thing we are sponsered by ip, the rep was there and gave a new set within 2 minutes!
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#162447 - 05/16/08 11:37 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Skittle]
MaizeBass011 Offline


Registered: 05/16/08
Loc: Kansas
haha reminds me of my freshman year i wass on baby bass and i had ridiculous stick heights like 14" for forte of somthing and the night before our "big competition" i snaped the mallet on our claw stick holder....:(((( it sucked
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#162947 - 05/23/08 02:53 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: daspyda]
baseman_matt Offline


Registered: 05/16/08
Loc: AL
try promark they dont break easy

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#162971 - 05/23/08 08:20 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: baseman_matt]
tycheeman610 Offline


Registered: 04/16/08
Loc: California, USA
We were playing our cadence last year on our way to the football stadium, when I hit the rim and just popped the head off of the mallet. The funny thing was that I didn't notice until some random woman came up and handed the head of the mallet to me..

I was really into that cadence I guess......
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#164780 - 06/11/08 08:41 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: Skittle]
rraya0830 Offline


Registered: 06/11/08
Loc: rraya0830
i don't think i have ever broken one. its been a long time since i played bass though. but i agree bad mallet

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#164784 - 06/11/08 09:54 PM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: rraya0830]
wvdrummerboy Offline


Registered: 10/29/06
Loc: West Virginia
It depends on how old they are but if they are new they are just bad mallets.
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#169458 - 08/11/08 10:42 AM Re: Breaking Bass Mallets [Re: wvdrummerboy]
Nation_of_Bass Offline


Registered: 08/09/08
Loc: Northern Colorado
I've never broken a bass mallet, ever. Somebody stole the bass mallets I played with, so I decided to invest in a pair of Silver Foxes, because I wanted a metal shaft. Those things are monsters!

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