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#153554 - 10/25/07 02:14 PM 4" spock?
Deadman Offline


Registered: 10/11/07
Loc: McArthur, Ohio
i know it sounds funky

but do you think they'll ever come out with one?

i think it'd be pretty sweet, even though if ou used mallets you couldn't hit the thing lol
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#153555 - 10/25/07 06:14 PM Re: 4" spock? [Re: Deadman]
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Registered: 12/29/05
I doubt you'll see one. That's just too small to be practical. But I wouldn't be surprised to see someone come out with a fiber/Kevlar head for 6" drums.

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#153556 - 10/25/07 07:12 PM Re: 4" spock? [Re: SkyDog]
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Registered: 02/22/04
Loc: Springfield M.A
They already have aramid woven fibre heads for 6 inch drums. I think anything smaller than 6 would not really add anything to the ensemble and would only really be heard if you had only the tenor line play.
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#153557 - 10/26/07 04:32 PM Re: 4" spock? [Re: Ironman7]
Deadman Offline


Registered: 10/11/07
Loc: McArthur, Ohio
i agree, but 30 or so years ago they didn't have 6" spocks i don't think...


depends on where it's put i guess


5" maybe?
ha
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#153558 - 10/26/07 04:58 PM Re: 4" spock? [Re: Deadman]
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Registered: 12/31/00
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why not just mount a pringles can? might not have the projection of a 6" but they sure are tasty

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#153559 - 10/26/07 05:38 PM Re: 4" spock? [Re: Deadman]
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Registered: 12/29/05
Quote:

i agree, but 30 or so years ago they didn't have 6" spocks i don't think...




30 years ago, there was no reason for having a 6" spock. Tuning in general was MUCH lower, and a spock voice would really be way outside the battery's pitch range. Snares were 15" drums with mylar heads. Tenors were usually large tri-toms and they were tuned lower than today's upper bass drums. Bass drums -- even the upper drums -- really were bass drums.

Modern-style tenor playing really didn't come about until the 1980s. By the end of that decade, playing and tuning styles had evolved, tuning ranges crept upward (especially with the advent of Kevlar heads), and spocks became commonplace.

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#153560 - 10/27/07 10:55 AM Re: 4" spock? [Re: multi-Thomm]
Deadman Offline


Registered: 10/11/07
Loc: McArthur, Ohio
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why not just mount a pringles can? might not have the projection of a 6" but they sure are tasty




no doubt man


yeah i know, my junior high still has a set of tri-toms from that time period, that our high school used. heads haven't been changed in...i'm gonna guess 13 years.

our old quads won't tune up very high at all either, i tried to tune them for one of our alumni, didn't work out...

it's amazing how things seem to change about every 4 years or so huh?
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#153561 - 10/27/07 01:18 PM Re: 4" spock? [Re: Deadman]
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Registered: 12/29/05
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it's amazing how things seem to change about every 4 years or so huh?




As far as equipment goes, we might be in the longest period of stability the activity has seen since the 1950's. Things really haven't changed all that much in the 15-20 years since Kevlar and free floaters were introduced.

1950's: Plastic heads introduced.
1960's: Pitched basses and multi-pitched tenors.
1970's: Drum carriers, quads/quints/etc.
1980's: Kevlar heads, free floaters.
1990's to present: ???

I'm not saying that things are static, since there have obviously been incremental improvements in equipment and things have continued to evolve musically and visually. But other than a few minor changes (new strainer design for FFX and sfz, reinforcing rings, etc.), the design of marching drums been stable for quite a while.

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