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#145717 - 06/14/07 11:53 PM grip style
lzd1991 Offline


Registered: 05/13/07
Loc: Grapevine Tx
I go to a north texas school and nobody in our area uses traditional grip. match grip is ok and everything,but its hard to ake everyones grip on the stick look uniform. does anybody else use match??
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#145718 - 06/15/07 12:48 PM Re: grip style [Re: lzd1991]
lzd1991 Offline


Registered: 05/13/07
Loc: Grapevine Tx
And, just to clarify, the kids who want to take their drumming out of HS (me being one) we play traditional grip when we practice outside of formal practice.) in y opinion, its good to know both.
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#145719 - 06/15/07 04:21 PM Re: grip style [Re: lzd1991]
DRUMS11 Offline


Registered: 11/01/06
Loc: Columbus, Ohio
I'm not exactly sure what you're inquiry/question/comment is, but I'll try to respond anyway.

If you mean you intend to play in a corps or in college, then it is useful to be able to play with a traditional grip -- a corps will probably use it and it's probably about 50/50 in college bands. Just don't get too attached to your particular take on "traditional" for reasons I expound upon below.

I'm not sure what you mean by your statement that it's "hard to make everyone's grip on the stick look uniform" with matched grip -- there isn't really any variation in a correct matched grip. Most high schools I know of usually play matched, as it generally applies to percussion instruments as a whole and is easier to learn and to play with correct form.

Traditional grip is where there is a lot of variation, largely stemming from the fact that traditional came about to make it possible to play with a drum cocked over your hip (think Yankee Doodle) and was later still much more comfortable with leg stirrups and leveler bars since the drum was still off to the side and the drum could still be set at an angle. Carriers have removed the reason for traditional grip and actually make the grip awkward, so a number of variations have sprung up, from "ashtray" (left hand turned palm up) to "drop armed" (palm in a hand-shake position, left arm held low to bring the stick semi-level) with variations in exact finger position thrown into each -- I believe there is a looong thread on here discussing "correct" traditional grip!
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#145720 - 06/15/07 08:18 PM Re: grip style [Re: DRUMS11]
JoeD Offline


Registered: 06/05/07
I think this is the forum DRUMS11 is talking about

Left hand technique thread

If this is indeed your question...
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#145721 - 06/15/07 08:20 PM Re: grip style [Re: JoeD]
DrumerKruse Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: Colorado
yeah but that not what he wants to know
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#145722 - 06/15/07 11:39 PM Re: grip style [Re: DrumerKruse]
lzd1991 Offline


Registered: 05/13/07
Loc: Grapevine Tx
Yeah, i just wanted to know who used what grip style. i thought most groups used tradish on snare, (not including my school.)
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#145723 - 06/16/07 12:23 AM Re: grip style [Re: lzd1991]
Alphorn88 Offline


Registered: 04/15/07
I would either stick with one grip and stay with it. If you keep changing, one will always be weaker + it will be difficult keep it consistent.

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#145724 - 06/16/07 01:58 PM Re: grip style [Re: Alphorn88]
chstenors09 Offline


Registered: 05/13/06
Loc: Cabot, Arkansas
I really don't agree with the above statement. For example, if you stick with playing snare all your drumming-life, your mallet skills are gonna suck. Most percussionists need to be well-rounded in the aspect of being able to play various instruments in various situations. I think it's best to learn both and be proficient at both, and switch while you practice. Now, to the original question, our line uses match due to the lack of correct knowledge of traditional grip. My instructor feels it unnecessary to sacrifice sound quality to "look like a more advanced line" by playing traditional as a line, but he still tries to get all the snares to be able to handle traditional grip.

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#145725 - 06/25/07 08:48 PM Re: grip style [Re: chstenors09]
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My highschool's line plays matched.
A side note...
I'm not on the line but am teaching myself to play and would like to maybe try out for a college band next year. Should I learn traditional or stick with matched?

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#145726 - 06/28/07 04:22 PM Re: grip style [Re: ]
JoeD Offline


Registered: 06/05/07
Depends on the college.... you should ask someone there when you go on a tour

If they used matched then it wont help you to use traditional
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