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#119145 - 09/06/06 02:38 AM Patty and Fla Fla
ryancousins Offline


Registered: 06/29/04
Loc: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Ok so I asked this in another post, but no one is touching it, perhaps a more relevant subject line would help, I'm creating a new post for my question, if that is illegal than I'm Sorry!!!

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Great book Ratamaswiss! Couple of questions for everyone out there...

I'm looking at Rudiments 55, 56, and 101. What is the difference/similarity between a patty and a flafla? How do you "patty" a rudiment and how do you "flafla" a rudiment? I always thought that a patty was a downbeat and uh ACCENT pattern, while a flafla was a downbeat and uh FLAM pattern. So a patty flafla rudiment would just contain both. Is this correct or way off?

However looking at these three similar rudiments I am confused. According to #55 (flam 5 flafla) there is an inverted/hand to hand primary stroke pattern (RLRL, followed by LRLR). And #56 (Flam Five Patty) there is a regular alternating non hand to hand RLRL RLRL pattern. So from these two rudiments alone one might infer that this sticking is the difference between patty and flafla since the diddles, flams and accents are the same for both. However whether that is true or not when you put #101 into the mix it messes everything up. #101 (Patty Fives) is the same as #56 except for the addition of an accent on the uhs.

Help me everyone, I'm seriously losing sleep over this
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#119146 - 09/08/06 06:11 PM Re: Patty and Fla Fla [Re: ryancousins]
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Registered: 04/13/03
Loc: Auburn, AL; USA
THIS is what Marty Hurley told me: he said that originally the pataflafla rudiment was rlFLamFLam sixteenth notes with the flams on the & and a. They changed it. So to answer your question I think everyone has messed this up, but it really doesn't matter. I mean they should be flam fives, not patty fives right? or Should they be fla fives? I don't know and I don't lose sleep over it. drummaddict out.
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#119147 - 09/08/06 11:26 PM Re: Patty and Fla Fla [Re: Drum_addict]
ryancousins Offline


Registered: 06/29/04
Loc: Kalamazoo, Michigan
Ok, but what is pata/patty supposed to mean, or what has it come to mean? is it the same as para (alternating)?

Ok so I'm not losing sleep, I guess I'm just OCD!
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