OK. My Band Teachers are bugging cymbals about playing loud, so they say if we invert our cymbals, while playing correctly they'll give us $20, is that even possible? If so, Help me out. Please
Thanks,
Moi

i think ive done it...the cymbals i had inverted almost everyday when i marched them...but it still could be bad technique and me not noticing it.

I'm confused. Are they telling you to invert the cymbals?

Yeah Because They Are trying to make us play louder, and they say that if we play loud and invert them they'll give us money. but i don't know if there is a way to do it easily.

Inverting cymbals ruins them! If you want to play louder, play a flam crash. Usually people invert cymbals from using poor technique.

I think what she seems is that the band director wants them to play loud enough (And jokingly told them) that it would invert the cymbals. I don't think he/she meant it literally.

But yeah, If you play with correct technique, there's a significantly lower chance of invertedness(ishwtfdidIjusttype). And, you can be louder by playing correctly. But, there are going to be times where you won't be able to hear the cymbals because of field positions or the loudness of the band.

That's why I asked. It sounded like the director was serious.

OMG. I don't even know how to explaoin it. I just want 20 bucks.

Umm . . . You can get 20 bucks by doing something else . . . Not ruining a perfectly good pair of 200+ dollar Plates. Use common sense.

Some people get $20 by uh....what's the word...getting a job.

Or do what I do and teach lessons for 10$ an hour. Sit in a nice chair and teach.....sweet gig.


On topic:
Cymbals inverting is mostly from bad technique, but if the cymbals are of poor quality, is it always the technique? They are some that we use for concert, and I was just woundering because they have a bad habit of doing it.

aside that, if your bd was serious about the cymbal inverting thing AND giving money, he should be fired.

Absolutely! There is something wrong with people who think it is okay to destroy instruments on purpose.

Oh Thanks A Lot People

I have been in similar situations, but not with cymbals. My old band director would sometimes tell someone that he would pay them $10 if they played loud enough to break a drum head or a timpani head. Most people usually were not successful.

I think the reason that he did this was not because he really wanted us to use poor technique and break heads but rather he wanted us to not be timid about playing and to not worry that if we play too loud that we will break something.

i know that, but i want the money. lol. never have too much shopping money, and i need new percussion gloves. dang it.

For that, sell your Plates. I'm sure they'll fetch a lot more than 20 bucks.

Or, do the smart thing. Start saving money.

And what the heck would you need percussion gloves for? If I'm understanding this correctly, your drumline is using gloves?

The drums must be cold. LOL

I really don't think inverting cymbals ruins them. It's happened to us a few times and we were able to fix it.

Even so you don't want to invert them seeing as it's one of the scarier things to happen when you're playing cymbals.

That and if your strap breaks and your cymbal falls off mid crash.

Inverting cymbals actually does do a lot of damage, even if you don't see it out right or in plain sight. It makes the plates a lot weaker, and they become much more susceptible to cracking/perma-inverting (When they just won't devert back into a normal position).

That's true, it can leave marks too but I meant they could still be played after the occurrence.

We've still been able to.

Our cymbal players have inverted cymbals many-a-time. Especially when we had cheap ZXT's, they inverted about once a day in the sun. But yeah, don't invert the cymbals, we had a ZXT crack after inverting a few times. Now we have really nice cymbals, but one kid managed to invert one, because he's a moron.

I'm also not sure about it, but it seems like they invert easier when it's hot out. Is this true?

Actually . . . Come to think of it, one day during rehearsal, one of the plate kids inverted their cymbal over 4 times in a 2 hour rehearsal block under direct sunlight (Hot day, too.). But, when we went inside, I believe they only inverted twice.

(Not to mention the extremely bruised knee that resulted in trying to de-invert the cymbal. They were the Zildjian equivalent to B8 Pro's.)