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#117688 - 08/13/06 10:18 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: cymbalman]
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Registered: 11/13/04
Loc: Weslaco, TX
Or do what I do and teach lessons for 10$ an hour. Sit in a nice chair and teach.....sweet gig.


On topic:
Cymbals inverting is mostly from bad technique, but if the cymbals are of poor quality, is it always the technique? They are some that we use for concert, and I was just woundering because they have a bad habit of doing it.
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#117689 - 08/15/06 09:46 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: DCI_Dreamer]
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Registered: 06/16/00
Loc: Southern MD
Quote:

Cymbals inverting is mostly from bad technique, but if the cymbals are of poor quality, is it always the technique? They are some that we use for concert, and I was just woundering because they have a bad habit of doing it.




Its usually from bad technique. If they're poor quality, then the "bad technique" is playing them past their threshold.

Well, you could argue that, atleast. If they're just trash cymbals, then they're trash cymbals. After the first inversion, I've noticed cymbals tend to have a "sweet spot" where no matter how pristine the technique is, if you hit the cymbal in the right contact spot, it will invert.

Just remember this situation.
A crappy set of cymbals gets inverted.
If bad technique was not blatantly obvious, do not ask "was it bad technique or just a crappy cymbal?" because the question should really be "Who cares?". Its a crappy pair of cymbals, what do you expect?
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#117690 - 08/17/06 08:55 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: kevin_fu]
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Registered: 08/02/05
Loc: irvine, ca
aside that, if your bd was serious about the cymbal inverting thing AND giving money, he should be fired.

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#117691 - 08/18/06 08:23 AM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: insanejin]
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Registered: 05/30/03
Absolutely! There is something wrong with people who think it is okay to destroy instruments on purpose.
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#117692 - 08/18/06 10:02 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: ]
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Oh Thanks A Lot People

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#117693 - 08/19/06 12:15 AM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: ]
Drummergal51 Offline
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Registered: 11/26/04
Loc: Duluth, MN and Grand Forks, ND
I have been in similar situations, but not with cymbals. My old band director would sometimes tell someone that he would pay them $10 if they played loud enough to break a drum head or a timpani head. Most people usually were not successful.

I think the reason that he did this was not because he really wanted us to use poor technique and break heads but rather he wanted us to not be timid about playing and to not worry that if we play too loud that we will break something.

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#117694 - 08/24/06 11:26 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: Drummergal51]
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i know that, but i want the money. lol. never have too much shopping money, and i need new percussion gloves. dang it.

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#117695 - 08/25/06 04:00 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: ]
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Registered: 12/27/04
Loc: Miami, Fl
For that, sell your Plates. I'm sure they'll fetch a lot more than 20 bucks.

Or, do the smart thing. Start saving money.

And what the heck would you need percussion gloves for? If I'm understanding this correctly, your drumline is using gloves?

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#117696 - 08/25/06 07:55 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: Font]
cymbalman Offline


Registered: 05/30/03
The drums must be cold. LOL
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#117697 - 11/30/06 07:49 PM Re: Inverting Cymbals? [Re: cymbalman]
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I really don't think inverting cymbals ruins them. It's happened to us a few times and we were able to fix it.

Even so you don't want to invert them seeing as it's one of the scarier things to happen when you're playing cymbals.

That and if your strap breaks and your cymbal falls off mid crash.

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