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#116359 - 01/04/07 06:11 PM
Re: "Pad Hands"
[Re: NeoGoober]
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Registered: 03/22/05
Loc: Michigan
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I think playing on a variety of surfaces helps. From pillows to carpet to mousepads to table tops and pads, if you can adjust to playing on different surfaces going back to a drum should be cake.
I couldn't agree more. You can also try different types of pads (realfeel, heavy hitter, putty pad), switching between them. Try using hi-hats or even basketballs for a different feel. Since different drums can feel different this adjustment can be good practice.
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#116361 - 11/27/07 08:20 AM
Re: "Pad Hands"
[Re: FredWatson]
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Registered: 07/26/04
Loc: Hattiesburg, MS (USM)
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So I have two ideas to throw out here.
If it is the feel of the pad then try to find a pad that feels to you most like playing on a drum. To me a slim pad with a laminate does just that. It does make a very obnoxious racket though. Realfeels are really good too.
But what I think may be the problem is like posture change, position or pad/drum change, or technique change. I've seen people a lot just like lay/sit around with their pad in their lap. I don't know about most people but for me I have to pull my elbow back quite a bit to play like this, and sometimes I tend to like "break" the wrist like not pulling it back right like having to pull it in to play right. Like accommodating for the pad not being in the area a drum would be. This especially in the left hand. Basically what I'm trying to compare this to is if you play with your drum too low or too high and you create unnecessary tension or accommodate your technique for it. Then when its the right height you've developed those bad habits and you have to get rid of it.
Basically what I'm trying to say is the technique and way you play on your pad should be the same technique that you would use for playing on a drum.
Tip for fixing problem... put the pad on your snare drum or a snare stand.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. The more refined your technique becomes, the more awkward it's going to be to apply minor changes to that technique, even if it involves moving from sitting down with a pad to a drum on a carrier. That's why I try to practice my actual playing position as much as possible.
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#116362 - 11/29/07 09:58 AM
Re: "Pad Hands"
[Re: HCHSDrummer05]
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Registered: 05/29/07
Loc: RTP, North Carolina
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A lot of things I see that people would call "pad hands" are not problems with the pad itself, but with how people play on the pad. For example, setting it on one's lap will have the surface much closer to the body than a drum will be. Also, since it's not a loud surface, a lot of people don't notice fluctuations in sound quality, especially with diddles, so the player will lose a lot of confidence when he hears how he actually sounds on a drum.
I play my snare drum on a tilt, and when you play the right hand off the drum head, the attack should be perpendicular to the head, rather than vertical. This adaptation will be very natural on a drum; however, a pad is much more forgiving of 'angle of attack' problems, and you won't notice that you've been "slicing" until you put on the drum, or really look at yourself in a mirror.
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#116363 - 12/30/07 08:37 PM
Re: "Pad Hands"
[Re: FredWatson]
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Registered: 09/26/07
Loc: Rammer Jammer Alabamer
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So I have two ideas to throw out here.
If it is the feel of the pad then try to find a pad that feels to you most like playing on a drum. To me a slim pad with a laminate does just that. It does make a very obnoxious racket though. Realfeels are really good too.
But what I think may be the problem is like posture change, position or pad/drum change, or technique change. I've seen people a lot just like lay/sit around with their pad in their lap. I don't know about most people but for me I have to pull my elbow back quite a bit to play like this, and sometimes I tend to like "break" the wrist like not pulling it back right like having to pull it in to play right. Like accommodating for the pad not being in the area a drum would be. This especially in the left hand. Basically what I'm trying to compare this to is if you play with your drum too low or too high and you create unnecessary tension or accommodate your technique for it. Then when its the right height you've developed those bad habits and you have to get rid of it.
Basically what I'm trying to say is the technique and way you play on your pad should be the same technique that you would use for playing on a drum.
Tip for fixing problem... put the pad on your snare drum or a snare stand.
Yeah, when I used a Vic Firth Slim Pad it virtually eliminated y pad hands, as in it still had given me very small amounts of "pad hands" but a kevlar head is just a little bit harder. {?} I don't use the laminate, but it still has very similar feel.
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#116365 - 01/13/08 02:26 PM
Re: "Pad Hands"
[Re: drum_addict09]
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Registered: 01/13/08
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really? i find that playing it on a pad makes it easier so when i play non a drum its much cleaner
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#161621 - 05/04/08 05:51 AM
Re: "Pad Hands"
[Re: drum_addict09]
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Registered: 08/29/04
Loc: michigan
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I dont know about the reel feel pads, to help reduce pad hands... To each his own i guess. Anyway i have heard of pad hands from playing too much on the pad, but usually it doesnt take to long to remember the feel of a drum. I think the guy who said not to change the approach was right on the money.
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#165999 - 06/23/08 08:06 PM
Re: "Pad Hands"
[Re: Zep]
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Registered: 06/23/08
Loc: CA
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really? i find that playing it on a pad makes it easier so when i play non a drum its much cleaner After I play on a pad, switching to a legitimate kevlar head is really different. I feel like after I drum on my pad, my rolls aren't as crisp when I go to the drum.
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