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#115680 - 07/18/06 12:48 PM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: Cadet311]
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Registered: 09/21/05
i marched cymbals last year i didnt get bruises on my arm but i did slice my stomach open switching down to chick position and doing chez-ups.
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#115681 - 12/28/06 12:12 AM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: paradawhat]
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Registered: 07/26/04
Loc: Chesterland, Ohio
hey whats the difference besides looks, between straight, vertical carshes and orchestral crashes?? any sound differences ??

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#115682 - 12/28/06 01:53 AM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: vanguard10or]
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Registered: 12/27/04
Loc: Miami, Fl
I believe so, but it also involves a visual standpoint.

Orchestrial crashes sound bigger because they "look" bigger to the eye. They are big, wide, over-the-eyes crashes that just express sound at the audience.

I don't know what you mean by straight or vertical, but I'll mention the power crash (vanguard style)

Power crashes, atleast to me, sound more like impact sounds. They're powerful, and essentially you're smashing the cymbals together with a lot of force.

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#115683 - 12/28/06 07:50 AM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: Cadet311]
snarepaint Offline


Registered: 06/13/03
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Unless you're doing some wacky crazy visual where you spin the cymbals on your arm.

That might leave bruises.




Agreed.

The best solution for this would be to leave such advanced skills to trained professionals.

You know, like the people that did the drumline movie.

Seriously though, I'm with Jeff- proper technique should leave little or no battle damage. Everyone is going to slip or miss now and then, but that happens with any percussion instrument. I've busted a knuckle or two on spocks and bass rims, taken a few welts from cymbals and even watched an unfortunate soul suffer at the hands of a poorly made whipcrack in a wind ensemble once (talk about blood everywhere!).
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#115684 - 12/28/06 10:59 AM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: snarepaint]
Cadet311 Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: North NJ
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Agreed.

You know, like the people that did the drumline movie.





Excuse me, Mr., but I did visuals like that when I was in HS! A full four years before Drumline! A thank you very much.

But, yeah, if you're doing it right, you won't be in a world of hurt.
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#115685 - 12/28/06 11:53 AM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: snarepaint]
Font Offline


Registered: 12/27/04
Loc: Miami, Fl
Quote:

Quote:

Unless you're doing some wacky crazy visual where you spin the cymbals on your arm.

That might leave bruises.




Agreed.

The best solution for this would be to leave such advanced skills to trained professionals.

You know, like the people that did the drumline movie.

Seriously though, I'm with Jeff- proper technique should leave little or no battle damage. Everyone is going to slip or miss now and then, but that happens with any percussion instrument. I've busted a knuckle or two on spocks and bass rims, taken a few welts from cymbals and even watched an unfortunate soul suffer at the hands of a poorly made whipcrack in a wind ensemble once (talk about blood everywhere!).




Speaking of, I had my left ringer finger smashed half way through thanks to a cymbal. Not mine. The kids next to me. He flared out on a flip-down, and the cymbal went THROUGH my nail and got about half way through my actual finger. You wanna see blood everywhere? I'll find a picture of my cymbal just after it happened. Like thick red spider webs.

Note: This was a WEEK before the Ohio/WGI prelims trip. Yeah. Imagine how that felt to perform without a finger brace. I was dying.

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#115686 - 12/28/06 01:38 PM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: Cadet311]
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Registered: 06/13/03
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...Excuse me, Mr., but I did visuals like that when I was in HS! A full four years before Drumline! A thank you very much...




Are you still going to therapy for it? Haha.

Hey Font- You took a big chance by marching with your finger like that, did it ever heal properly?

A lot of people that try to tough out injuries make them worse.
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#115687 - 12/28/06 02:34 PM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: snarepaint]
Cadet311 Global Moderator Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Loc: North NJ
I'll handle this for Toe...

"Well it sure didn't make him any better..."


And yes, I recovered very nicely.
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#115688 - 12/28/06 02:59 PM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: Cadet311]
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Registered: 12/27/04
Loc: Miami, Fl
I thought I heard bees . . .

And, it healed properly. There's a nice little white line under my nail where the cymbal impacted. when it first happened, it bled for six straight days. After a month and a half (in fact, at a Kiwanis camp after showering), the front of my nail finally came off. I faced infection throughout at the time almost daily. After it all grew back, there was a section of nail that wouldn't stick the skin, but finally it's totally healed and normal looking.

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#115689 - 02/12/07 07:33 PM Re: Marching Cymbals - help [Re: Cadet311]
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yea..no bruises for regular playing stuff

when i 1st started out my entire bisept and inner elbow was bruised badly and i had like a snake eye on my left arm (that still hasnt gone away)

but now no bruises =)
you get bruises is by choaking the wrong way

when it comes to visuals...thats dif.if it calls for it... bruise on!


Edited by gummi_cyms (02/12/07 07:46 PM)

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